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	<title>Comments on: Libertarian National Committee Meeting</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/</link>
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		<title>by: stevenwaterb</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-716559</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>joke this deliver speed vacant glass trust we german home black</description>
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		<title>by: ralph</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-622849</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-622849</guid>
					<description>How phony.

The old APRC was targeted and improperly abolished by a group led by Starr and Sullentrupp to block the program committee and platform reform, seize the archives in APRC's hands, and undermine the political director who was getting record people in office with APRC's help. They then claimed the PC and APRC  had done nothing when staff took their archives and 'lost' them, the fired the political director. Holtz has been putting out modified documents they seized ever since as LRC work product.

The APRC in the past reviewed or initiated key documents and language guidelines for staff that have been in place since the early '70's. They were never in the business of approving time sensistive documents, that was the Chair's job, ex officio a member of the APRC. But staff often consulted them, with a typical quick turnaround. And its supposed to have 4 people expert or activist in voluntaryism, anarchism/ minarchism, privatization and small government to see that the documents offer the public the range of Libertarian approaches. Is Jingozian an expert? Is Flood?  I doubt it.

LRC and staff are creating another history re-write and red herring problem. Starr will do all he can to continue to keep Libertarians from getting in office and outrage activists. He's not only in a position of control of the vanishing money but the key product. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How phony.</p>
	<p>The old <span class="caps">APRC</span> was targeted and improperly abolished by a group led by Starr and Sullentrupp to block the program committee and platform reform, seize the archives in <span class="caps">APRC</span>&#8217;s hands, and undermine the political director who was getting record people in office with <span class="caps">APRC</span>&#8217;s help. They then claimed the PC and <span class="caps">APRC </span> had done nothing when staff took their archives and &#8216;lost&#8217; them, the fired the political director. Holtz has been putting out modified documents they seized ever since as <span class="caps">LRC</span> work product.</p>
	<p>The <span class="caps">APRC</span> in the past reviewed or initiated key documents and language guidelines for staff that have been in place since the early &#8216;70&#8217;s. They were never in the business of approving time sensistive documents, that was the Chair&#8217;s job, ex officio a member of the <span class="caps">APRC</span>. But staff often consulted them, with a typical quick turnaround. And its supposed to have 4 people expert or activist in voluntaryism, anarchism/ minarchism, privatization and small government to see that the documents offer the public the range of Libertarian approaches. Is Jingozian an expert? Is Flood?  I doubt it.</p>
	<p><span class="caps">LRC</span> and staff are creating another history re-write and red herring problem. Starr will do all he can to continue to keep Libertarians from getting in office and outrage activists. He&#8217;s not only in a position of control of the vanishing money but the key product. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>by: Paul K.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-622101</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-622101</guid>
					<description>Oh great.  Parsing press announcements by the &quot;committee&quot;.   The LP should hire decent staff members and give them the discretion and responsibility for their actions.  If they screw up, they can always be fired later.  OTOH, might be something to keep the committee members busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh great.  Parsing press announcements by the &#8220;committee&#8221;.   The LP should hire decent staff members and give them the discretion and responsibility for their actions.  If they screw up, they can always be fired later.  <span class="caps">OTOH</span>, might be something to keep the committee members busy.</p>
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		<title>by: Shane Savoie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-622081</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-622081</guid>
					<description>I'm torn on this subject...On one hand, I understand that news is a timely subject and that releases need to move quickly; on the other, I don't like reading LP releases that call for more government that clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution.
  Whether he is fired or not, I certainly hope that egghead(Davis) is censured and has his fax machine priveleges revoked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m torn on this subject&#8230;On one hand, I understand that news is a timely subject and that releases need to move quickly; on the other, I don&#8217;t like reading LP releases that call for more government that clearly violates Article 1, Section 8 of the <span class="caps">US </span>Constitution.</p>
	<p>  Whether he is fired or not, I certainly hope that egghead(Davis) is censured and has his fax machine priveleges revoked.
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		<title>by: Dan Drexler</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621742</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621742</guid>
					<description>Davis is absolutely correct.

Having served as Executive Director of a state affiliate, there are times staff has to move quickly.  Oversight can consist of the Chair or an LNC media designate, with accountability falling to that level -- not staff.

Regardless of what message Davis puts out (or Cory put out for that matter), accountability falls to the Chair, Executive Committee and LNC members.  A five person committee is completely unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Davis is absolutely correct.</p>
	<p>Having served as Executive Director of a state affiliate, there are times staff has to move quickly.  Oversight can consist of the Chair or an <span class="caps">LNC</span> media designate, with accountability falling to that level&#8212;not staff.</p>
	<p>Regardless of what message Davis puts out (or Cory put out for that matter), accountability falls to the Chair, Executive Committee and <span class="caps">LNC</span> members.  A five person committee is completely unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>by: Jim Davidson</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621650</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621650</guid>
					<description>Andrew Davis should be fired.  He stated in the evil press release which called for &quot;more resources&quot; in the government to be focused on combating child pornography that the FBI should, &quot;go after sexual crimes involving children.&quot;  When I called him up to ask where the constitution authorized a Department of Justice, a nationalist police force like the FBI, or prosecution of child pornography cases, or to prosecute sexual crimes involving children, he said that the commerce clause allows the government to regulate anything.  Well, gee.

The LP headquarters staff should all be fired.  The LP chair and treasurer should be impeached, and if indicted, replaced.  There is a longstanding pattern going back to at least 1996 of interference by the LP HQ staff and some members of the LNC in the presidential nomination process.  This disgusting corruption has driven many individuals, including myself, from the LP.

The LP headquarters should be moved from the Watergate building, 2600 Virginia Ave. NW - a building notorious for its role in the greatest political scandal in American history.

But, the problems with the LP are mainly in the area of what should be done not ever getting done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Andrew Davis should be fired.  He stated in the evil press release which called for &#8220;more resources&#8221; in the government to be focused on combating child pornography that the <span class="caps">FBI</span> should, &#8220;go after sexual crimes involving children.&#8221;  When I called him up to ask where the constitution authorized a Department of Justice, a nationalist police force like the <span class="caps">FBI</span>, or prosecution of child pornography cases, or to prosecute sexual crimes involving children, he said that the commerce clause allows the government to regulate anything.  Well, gee.</p>
	<p>The LP headquarters staff should all be fired.  The LP chair and treasurer should be impeached, and if indicted, replaced.  There is a longstanding pattern going back to at least 1996 of interference by the <span class="caps">LP HQ</span> staff and some members of the <span class="caps">LNC</span> in the presidential nomination process.  This disgusting corruption has driven many individuals, including myself, from the LP.</p>
	<p>The LP headquarters should be moved from the Watergate building, 2600 Virginia Ave. <span class="caps">NW </span>- a building notorious for its role in the greatest political scandal in American history.</p>
	<p>But, the problems with the LP are mainly in the area of what should be done not ever getting done.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Bryant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621295</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh goodie...another LNC / LP Staff war is brewing.  The cycle of constant in-fighting continues.

I think both sides make good points.  It's a shame that Libertarians just can't get on the same page and move forward.  I hope that the battle is quick, regardless of who wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh goodie&#8230;another <span class="caps">LNC </span>/ LP Staff war is brewing.  The cycle of constant in-fighting continues.</p>
	<p>I think both sides make good points.  It&#8217;s a shame that Libertarians just can&#8217;t get on the same page and move forward.  I hope that the battle is quick, regardless of who wins.</p>
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		<title>by: nonsense</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621282</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621282</guid>
					<description>forget committee's, Davis is correct, they should be able to issue press releases quickly even if mistakes or renegade releases are made, mistakes happen in all news agencies... the committee should be a disciplinary committee rather than a review committee otherwise you risk not being able to get out 'news' to interested agencies that WOULD provide coverage in a timely manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>forget committee&#8217;s, Davis is correct, they should be able to issue press releases quickly even if mistakes or renegade releases are made, mistakes happen in all news agencies&#8230; the committee should be a disciplinary committee rather than a review committee otherwise you risk not being able to get out &#8216;news&#8217; to interested agencies that <span class="caps">WOULD</span> provide coverage in a timely manner.</p>
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		<title>by: Stewart Flood</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621261</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/libertarian-national-committee-meeting/#comment-621261</guid>
					<description>I also had my hand raised (as did others) to make similar motions.  Dr Ruwart was merely the first person recognized, which is evident from the almost unanimous vote.

I believe that the five of us will be able to create an effective committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I also had my hand raised (as did others) to make similar motions.  Dr Ruwart was merely the first person recognized, which is evident from the almost unanimous vote.</p>
	<p>I believe that the five of us will be able to create an effective committee.</p>
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