Yep.

And, as a matter of fact, the quickest way to national media for a third party candidate is to THREATEN to upset the applecart in key battleground states.

Barr doesn’t have to spend all his time jetting back and forth across the country to get national media, nor does he have to stand outside the Fox studio with hat in hand. If he runs a reasonable national campaign but CONCENTRATES on a few small states in which a strong campaign could change the election results, he won’t be able to get AWAY from the damn cameras.

The exception to the “small state” rule is Georgia. He may have enough juice there to make a real showing. But every $10k he pumps into New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Idaho and Alaska would be worth $100k in California, New York, Florida, etc.

If he can plausibly claim to control the outcome in a few states such that the result is other than it would have been had he not done so, he’ll get media. If he can plausibly claim to be positioned to CARRY even ONE such state, the pundits will go orgasmic.

Pagans need to get over themselves….and I speak as a pagan myself.

Bob Barr doesn’t have to agree with the pagan belief system and neither do pagans have to agree with the Christian belief system.

His actions regarding the Wiccan issue at Fort Hood is in the distant past. Has he stated recently since becoming a libertarian thathe wishes to pass laws that discriminate against Wiccans? No.

As a pagan, I’m not asking Barr to agree with us. I’m asking if he will respect our right to believe our own beliefs. As long as Barr refuses to address this issue it is not distant pass. You yourself admitted he has made no statements on this issue. You phrased it as he has made no negative statements, but the full truth is he has made no statements positive or negative.

His prior position, not discussed at all, is that certain groups of people should not have first amendment rights. That’s a pretty interesting position for the LP presidential candidate to hold. That’s why he needs to discuss it.

Ominously, he won’t. More ominously, his supporters say we shouldn’t even be asking the question.

Death Valley 2010 for the death of the LP? Gawds I hope not.

That way, it can’t possibly rain on us. I hope.

The platform was designed for citizen action, not for candidates. The current platform is more for candidates and follows the original one proposed in 2000 by the program committee, which devised several proposals to meet the different needs. It far from a triumph of LRC. It’s their admission of defeat. The Program Committee also devided the strategy that brought in Barr AND Gravel. You can expect the LRC to continue to block bringing in ‘turn’s’ like them, as LRC is doing in several states, disrupting local meetings.

Let’s remember that the so called pragmatists were the people trying to stop us from running candidates 28 years ago. And they still are: witness Gordon’s disastrous dumping of the Crickenberger plan. We should have over 1000 Libs in office now: where are they? They’ll stab Barr in the back the first chance they can, I suspect.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and trying to re-write history, kids.

The platform was designed for citizen action, not for candidates. The current platform is more for candidates and follows the original one proposed in 2000 by the program committee, which devised several proposals to meet the different needs. It far from a triumph of LRC. It’s their admission of defeat. The Program Committee also devided the strategy that brought in Barr AND Gravel. You can expect the LRC to continue to block bringing in ‘turn’s’ like them, as LRC is doing in several states, disrupting local meetings.

Let’s remember that the so called pragmatists were the people trying to stop us from running candidates 28 years ago. And they still are: witness Gordon’s disastrous dumping of the Crickenberger plan. We should have over 1000 Libs in office now: where are they? They’ll stab Barr in the back the first chance they can, I suspect.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and trying to re-write history, kids.

Polarization
“Viewing the nation as divided into two camps ignores the largest single group of Americans, namely, those who don’t vote at all. In the 2000 election only about 54 percent of eligible voters actually turned out to vote. In 2004, despite expensive get-out-the-vote campaigns by both ideological camps, the percentage who voted rose only a few points from the previous election. In fact, in 2004, an all-time record was set when more than 80 million eligible voters failed to vote; this number was far greater than the votes secured by either Bush or Kerry, by a substantial margin. In fact, no Republican or Democratic nominee has attracted as much as 30 percent of eligible voters since Ronald Reagan in 1984.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#Polarization

“Libertarian Party Dies

In a tragic turn of events there was a mass suicide of LP Party members. In some strange mass psychological breakdown many LP members stuck their heads so far up their asses that they suffocated to death.

A first-hand account of this tragedy was supplied by a shit-head named ‘Green Dad’ who was barely rescued by EMT’s.. ;o)”

LOL.

• Barr had 2 years to mea culpa on Fort Hood. He didn’t do it. If he doesn’t understand the First Amendment, then WTF is he doing as our candidate??? Can any of the Barrflies explain that? Can Barr himself explain it, and will he (as was requested in an unanswered direct email sent to him by Lidia over three weeks ago!)?

• Furthermore, why can’t Barr answer a question with a straight answer and why can’t he admit he was wrong about something? “I screwed up and I’m sorry” are the best words he could say regarding a whole host of things from his past. Haven’t heard them yet.

• By the fourth ballot, a lot of Ruwart supporters who were MMJ people had to medicate, which took them off the floor for the voting.

• Redpath doesn’t know how to run a business session and was lousy on the gavel. Moulton was far superior, and his loss of the VC to Jingozian doesn’t make much sense (nothing against Jingozian there).

• OTOH, save some minor technical difficulties with the P.A., BetteRose Ryan and Michelle Poague and LPCO deserve great kudos for a great convention. But that’s what they tend to do, which is why the are first-rate assets for the LP.

• There was a large contingent of people ready to leave the party after the Barr nomination. Steve Kubby running for VP (which Root only got by 3 votes) brought them back and may have saved the party. I am proud to have heavily worked the floor on that effort for Steve. Williams was heard saying that he wouldn’t endorse Kubby because he didn’t feel Steve was up to it, which of course is bullshit since he’d been doing it up to that point.

• If this is another attempt to find a magic bullet, I have news for people: there are no magic bullets. And Barr and Root need to be able and willing to do the grassroots work the party needs as well rather than be just media-centric. That’s not saying don’t pursue the media opportunities, just don’t make that the ONLY thing.

• Gravel was impressive, really working the delegates one-on-one and making a big good impression. The man is straightforward, honest, honorable, and we saw the real thing with him, not a mask or acting job.

• Why was Ruwart seated with the NC delegation instead of the TX delegation?

All in all, the convention was what conventions tend to be: exhilarating, stressful, fun, and irritating, all rolled into one.

And the streak of “It rains when Seebecks go to convention” continues:

2002, LPCO, Leadville, snow
2003, LPCO, Colorado Springs, rain
2005, LPCA, Los Angeles, rain
2007, LPCA, San Ramon, rain
2008, LPCA, San Diego, rain
2008, LPUS, Denver, rain

Which leaves one question unanswered: what are the advance rumors for LPUS 2010 locations?

Note that the person who said that was George Phillies, another candidate for the nomination. The man is just pissed Bob Barr entered late and beat him. Anybody should take that statement with a hefty grain of salt.