Barr campaign tells haters to…

...not “let the door hit you on the backside on your way out!

Yesterday, James Buchanan wrote:

White conservatives and White Nationalists now have an unpleasant choice:

They can vote for the Libertarian candidate Bobb Barr, an honest, decent man, who has consistently stood for conservative principles even though he stands no real chance of winning. A vote for Bob Barr would at least send a message to the Republican Party that conservatives and Whites won’t sit still as they are stuck with a liberal presidential candidate like McCain. Supporting Bob Barr might even pave the way for a Third Party to replace the increasingly repugnant Republican Party.

Or patriotic Whites can vote for John McCain despite his earlier attempted Amnesty treason and despite the warmongering for Israel and despite his mental instability and despite his multi-racial family –just to try to keep Obama out of the White House.

While I can appreciate White people making an effort to keep a Black liberal out of the White House, McCain is almost certain to lose according to all the recent opinion polls.

The Barr campaign found out about it this morning from this posting at Stormfront. Barr campaign manager Russ Verney immediately responded with:

The Barr campaign is not going to be a vehicle for every fringe and hate group to promote itself.

We do not want and will not accept the support of haters. Tell the haters I said don’t let the door hit you on the backside on your way out!

Anyone with love in their heart for our country and for every resident of our country regardless of race, religion, nationality or sexual orientation is welcome with open arms.



To make matters worse, they posted the photograph displayed below on both sites. While I certainly disagree with John McCain on a wide range of public policy issues (you know, like that whole small government thing), I certainly applaud the McCain family for their adoption of their daughter Bridget from Bangladesh.

As a father, I am absolutely sickened by the fact that the photograph below is displayed on two white-supremacist sites with the caption they provided. The implication is obvious…

Here’s a related photograph that’s even worse.

65 Responses to “Barr campaign tells haters to…”

  1. Jason Gatties Says:

    Hats off to the Barr campaign for handling this properly.

  2. Conservative Libertarian Says:

    Great job, Team Barr! If only Ron Paul had done the same thing.

  3. G.E. Says:

    Good for Barr. I wish Ron Paul would have been more proactive against the hatemongers who associated themselves with his movement.

  4. Conservative Libertarian Says:

    Steve Gordon said something positive about John McCain. That has got to be one for the record books.

  5. Ayn R. Key Says:

    Barr consultant Steve Gordon sent me the statement and added: “We denounce anybody who doesn’t want to treat everybody equally under the law.”

    Wow, Barr denounces Barr.

    Unless he renounces earlier positions that he currently refuses to address (and has followers tell us we are wrong to ask those questions).

  6. Richard Says:

    The Barr campaign is showing some real strength. The LP is showing real electorate and political strength with the Barr/Root candidacy.

  7. Chris Moore Says:

    Uhhhmmm.

    Why was the Barr campaign reading Stormfront?

    Just askin’. ;)

  8. Justin Grover Says:

    Awesome. :) Go Barr/Root!

  9. Stephen Gordon Says:

    “Uhhhmmm.

    Why was the Barr campaign reading Stormfront?”

    I found out about it through an e-mail tip about this Google Blog alert:

    Google Blogs Alert for: Bob Barr
    Vote for Libertarian Bob Barr in 2008
    By WhiteRights
    They can vote for the Libertarian candidate Bobb Barr, an honest, decent man, who has consistently stood for conservative principles even though he stands no real chance of winning. A vote for Bob Barr would at least send a message to …
    Stormfront White Nationalist Community – http://www.stormfront.org/forum

  10. Chris Moore Says:

    I found out about it through an e-mail tip about this Google Blog alert

    That’s what I figured, Stephen.

    I thought I would get the question out there somewhat sarcastically before others used it as “proof” that Bob Barr was a former Hitler aide. Afterall, some people actually believe Alex Jones [i]isn’t[/i] a complete, fucking moron. The way it was written, I could see one of those trooftards making the “argument”.

  11. Brian Miller Says:

    Well said, Mr. Varney and Barr campaign folks. Keep up the good work!

  12. disturbed Says:

    proof that bark is know by some racist

    www.lewrockwell.com

  13. korny Says:

    Glad I’m in England, so I don’t have to tell you that bark isn’t a libertarian

  14. Lance Brown Says:

    So Stephen,

    When is Barr going to finish thoroughly (and loudly, and unequivocally) denouncing his past anti-gay self? And anti-pagan, etc.?

    This is a step in the right direction, but Barr has some skeletons of bigotry in his closet—actually, they are out of the closet, so to speak, and in the open—and I for one would like to see them shredded, emphatically, by Bob Barr himself.

    I understand (or rumor has it) a new position paper on the drug war is forthcoming, and I’m tentatively looking forward to it, but everyone knows that Bob’s stance on gay rights and alternative religions are giant warts on his otherwise-much-improved libertarian complexion. So where’s the PR cleanup job for those issues? I’m looking forward to it. I want to love the new Bob. I really do. Please let me love him.

    I know there must be a temptation on the part of some in the campaign to write off the relatively small hardcore libertarian support in favor of some broader mainstream appeal…but you need that hardcore support core, and you need them enthusiastic. Ron Paul enthusiastic. And they won’t be that until Bob finishes denouncing the Bob that needs to be denounced. Loudly, plainly, and unequivocally. He’s done a small amount of that on the gay rights front, though not nearly enough. And I haven’t heard anything about his stance against alternative religions on military bases. Both of those paint a picture that makes it somewhat unsurprising that the Stormfront crowd might see Barr as an ally.

  15. Kenny Says:

    This was the correct and principled response. Ron Paul should have adopted the same stance and returned the Stormfront donation.

  16. disinter needs to get back on his meds Says:

    disinter, how come you are not over here beating up on Bob Barr for telling racists where to stick it?

    I assume you will attack Bob Barr again just so we can see what a racist you are, too.

  17. Will Vidal Says:

    Yeah, Barr handled this situation a lot better than Paul did; not that I necessarily disagreed with Paul in principle, but you can’t let there be any doubt to where you stand on people like this and sometimes the message sent is more important than the principle.

    And only a truly pathetic human being could write that caption on that picture.

  18. Dan Says:

    This would be a good time for Barr to talk about his own african american heritage and show how ridiculous the stormfront position is. They are supporting Barr thinking he is caucasian while he himself is half african american just like Obama.

  19. Robert Capozzi Says:

    Barr is proving to be sure-footed, learning from the missteps of the r3VOLution.

  20. Sean Scallon Says:

    So political bavery in this day and age is now reduced to denouncing Nazis and other white nationalists? Or in other words, beating one’s chest to denounce what in Cosmoland is a required act of faith which is constantly proving you’re not a racist in our multicultral word?

    Spare me the phony morality plays. The only people who think that the nation under threat from racists and Nazis are the cosmos themselves.

    Ron Paul was refreshing that he wasn’t going use a non-existant threat i.e. Nazis, KKK, white nationalists, etc. to proclaim his PC bonafides. Since nothing either Ron Paul said or did was remotly racist in any way shape or form (and don’t start with the newsletter crap)why was it necessary spend even a minute of time denouncing basement dwellers? Does one have to do this in order to prove something or receive some sort of stamp of legitimacy from the cosmos? What if Barr just ignored the crap one sees on Stormfront like most normal people do in everyday lives? Does that make him less of candidate because he refuses to waste time with such nonsense?

    Once again the cosmos play their little guilt by association games. They basically run Obama out of his own church because some guest preacher said some weird things Obama wasn’t even a party to. Candidates are excorated for their supporters’ controversial statements. Ron Paul is blamed because white nationalists hung around his campaign because of their own free will. I thought that was libertarianism is all about, letting people exercise free will. It’s not as if RP sought their endorsement. There wasn’t much he could do about it.

    But the PC games continue on I guess so long as the cosmos continue to need their validation stickers to stay a part of the establishment.

  21. Kenny Says:

    “Barr is proving to be sure-footed, learning from the missteps of the r3VOLution.”

    Nobody is perfect and we can learn from our own and others’ mistakes. The LP should be an attractive alternative for ambitious black voters who are fed up being patronized and taken for granted by the Democrats.

    Bob Barr has cited Ayn Rand as an inspiration. The key sections of her essay “Racism” in “Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal” should be quoted by Bob Barr in media interviews.

    Even though I disagree with him on the Iraq war, Walter Williams remains one of my favourite libertarian writers and speakers. Bob Barr should recruit Williams as a campaign adviser and spokesman.

  22. John Lowell Says:

    This development proves conclusively- as though it weren’t earlier proven – that Ron Paul was, is, and always will be an absolute schmegeggie. At another site over the weekend some vacuous, adolescent, Paul hanger-on posted this burst of jackassity for all to read:

    “Incidentally…
    The really really good news is that Ron Paul
    is sticking with his supporters and not bailing.
    How many men would face the monsters at the
    GOP convention with only 50 delegates?
    Name ONE politician with that much sand.
    NAME ONE, JUST ONE!
    And who is he doing it for?
    ME.”

    When they’re done sterilizing Paul and his immediate family, one hopes that they will turn next to this clown.

  23. Kenny Says:

    John Lowell, that is a hateful post. Paul is not responsible for the posts of immature supporters. Hang your head in shame!

  24. John Lowell Says:

    Well, Kenny, whether its money from Nazis or the imbecile enthusiasms of the credulous, what, precisely, has Paul done to disown such things? Absolutely nothing! If anything, he’s basked in and thoroughly encouraged the latter. Now there’s something genuinely hateful for you.

    About a month ago at the same site to which I referred above another idiot equated Paul with the person of Jesus Christ! Is it possible that that might have been you, Kenny?

  25. William Wallace Says:

    Bob who?

  26. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Quoth Sean Scallon:

    “(and don’t start with the newsletter crap)”

    In other words, you get to assert that “nothing either Ron Paul said or did was remotly racist in any way shape or form” ... and then immunize your argument from refutation by announcing that 20 years of evidence that Paul sucked up to racists, anti-semites, xenophobes and homophobes is inadmissible.

    Nice trick, if you could get away with it … but you can’t.

  27. disinters white anal gerbil Says:

    Everybody saying that the Barr people don’t want to purge anyone. However, it looks like they want to purge people with unPC views on race.

    Racists can be libertarians. Barr wants to purge us from the LP.

  28. Pepe Johnson Says:

    And comparing Paul to Barr on gay rights is another losing point for Mr. Paul. I’ve heard some of Mr. Paul’s interviews on social conservative talk radio and he hems and haws when it comes to gay people.

    Mr. Barr, on the other hand, authored an op-ed about a year ago calling for the repeal of Don’t ask, Don’t tell. And, finally, at the convention, he declared that the Defense of Marriage Act was a mistake and that he would work to repeal it.

    Even now, when he stands no chance of winning, I sincerely doubt Ron Paul would be bold enough to make such statements. This latest incident involving racist organizations is just further differentiation between the two.

  29. John Lowell Says:

    Pepe,

    Gay “rights”, or gay impositions, Pepe?

  30. Pepe Johnson Says:

    Mr. Lowell, would you prefer “human rights” or “human equality”? I have no problem with that terminology.

    Why do you assert that I am talking about impositions? Upon whom was I imposing when I put on the uniform of the US Army to defend this country? And upon whom am I imposing when I expect to be treated the same as any other soldier and citizen?

  31. Sean Scallon Says:

    It’s inadmissable and pointless Tom because he did not write them. End of discussion. You can’t call someone a rascist who isn’t. If you want to bitch at Paul for negligence that’s fine. But for racism? No.

  32. Artie Siegelman Says:

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  33. Michael Seebeck Says:

    Well, that is a positive step forward for Barr. Please pardon my ongoing skepticism, but Barr still has a long way to go.

    Stephen, Barr needs to make a position statement on religious freedom. Not necessarily Fort Hood or the Pagan Headstone campaign type of stuff (but it wouldn’t hurt, either), but am assertion that he believes in religious freedom, separation of church and state, and an admission of past mistakes in that regard.

    That will go a long way for a LOT of people.

    The best thing a candidate can do is admit they have been wrong and have grown. It shows they are human and can move beyond their own ego.

  34. Eric Dondero Says:

    Been scanning all the libertarian and libertarian-leaning sites. I have yet to see one single negative comment about the Barr Campaign’s reaction to the Stormfront postings. It’s absolutely unanimous. Everyone is saying this was a very positive move by the Barr Campaign.

    Indeed I agree wholeheartedly.

    This is a great sign, only a week and a half after he secures the Nomination. Not only says that the Barr Campaign will not associate itself with racist looney tunes, but just as importantly, shows that the Barr Campaign team is First Class, and reacts very quickly to potentially adverse events.

    Good job Barr Campaign Team!

  35. Hugh Jass Says:

    Is the white supremacist James Buchanan different from the libertarian economist James Buchanan?

  36. John Lowell Says:

    When you posit an equivalence between the cohabitation of same sex persons with a sacramental marriage of persons of opposite sexes you impose yourself on me, sir. You particularly impose yourself on me when you enter the cathedrals of my faith and disrupt Masses there, throwing consecrated hosts on the floor and by later attempting to justify such outrages. You do selfish violence to otherwise innocent, unadopted children by insisting in courts that they be adopted by you and exposed to your disordered sexuality. And, frankly, you impose yourself on me by being in military service at all. I’m sick of you and the not-so-subtle intrusion of your vision of “equal rights” on our public life over the last three decades or so. Is that enough for you?

  37. Michael Seebeck Says:

    Sorry, John, you confuse the secular contract of marriage and the religious sacrament of matrimony. Having done both, to my wife, I can authoritatively say there is a big difference. No church has to perform or recognize a same-gender marriage, only the state (at least in CA and MA).

    No church has to abide anyone interrupting their symbolic cannibalism ritual they call the Eucharist, either. And yes, I’m a former Catholic.

    And you refer to “disordered sexuality”. Sorry, but only in your world. Homosexual behavior is prevalent in the natural world we live in, the same world your religion states that you believe your god created, so if your god created it, then who are you as a mere man to claim it disordered or deviant when your god made it that way? Besides, it’s about the love, not the plumbing!

    And calling Mr. Johnson’s military service an imposition on you is just silly. If anything you ought to be thanking him for his service. I do so here: Mr. Johnson, thank you.

    BTW, there was nothing in Mr. Johnson’s post to indicate he is homosexual. It is very possible that he is exactly like me: straight, but not narrow.

    Methinks, Mr. Lowell, that you are letting your personal biases cloud rational judgement.

  38. Glaivester Says:

    Is the white supremacist James Buchanan different from the libertarian economist James Buchanan?

    I thought we had a post from our 15th president.

  39. disinter Says:

    “My friend’s very conservative mother, not a libertarian at all, is sick of McCain, and was interested in voting LP this year. But she says the nomination of Barr strikes her as opportunistic and not rooted in the radical principle she always expected from Libertarians. So, although she might have pulled the lever for an anarchist to send a message, she concludes this time it would not send any such message. She will stay home this year.”

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/021351.html

  40. Jasian Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    “my friends very conservative mother, not a libertarian at all”

    “she says the nomination of Barr strikes her as opportunistic and not rooted in the radical principle”

    Do you actually think people are that dumb, Disinter?

  41. Jasian Says:

    I’m still laughing at that bullshit disinter post.

    You really do think people are that stupid don’t you?

    WHAT A CHARACTER

  42. John Lowell Says:

    Seebeck,

    Reached you, did I Seebeck? Touched just about every religion hating neuron in what it is that substitutes for a mind in your case? Here’s a helpful little suggestion for you, chief: Take your supercilious, amoral pseudo-logic and your noxious anti-Catholicism and stick ‘em both where the moon don’t shine. Then, just as quick as you possibly can, do us all a favor here and find a way back under the rock from which you just slithered.

  43. Andy Says:

    In a REAL libertarian society, people have the right to be racist, or to hold any other kind of bigoted view, so long as they don’t initiate the use of force against others.

    A TRUE libertarian SHOULD get support from everyone who wants to be left alone, including racists, gays, Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, multi-culturalists, black people, white people, prostitutes, etc…

    REAL freedom is NOT politically correct!

    Now I understand in our “PC” society most people are too chickenshit (including many so called “libertarians”) to understand what REAL freedom is, so from a strategic standpoint I can certainly understand why the Barr campaign would want to distance itself from this.

    I’m just making the point that there are good reasons for racists to support libertarians, just as there are good reasons for gays to support libertarians, just as there are good reasons for atheists to support libertarians, just as there are good reasons for theists to support libertarians, etc…

    If you want to be left alone to live your life as you want to live it, so long as you don’t initiate force or fraud on others, then you should support Libertarians.

  44. Kenny Says:

    Dinter’s “very conservative mother” quote was taken from an Anthony Gregory post on the Lew Riockwell blog. Note the url at the bottom of the quote. Jasian is clearly a moron.

  45. Stefan Says:

    disinter: Anthony Gregory is an anarchist, not a real libertarian. He criticized Mary Ruwart and Steve Kubby at the LNC for referring positively to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which he refers to as “statist” documents. SO really I do not agree with everything Gregory is saying. He differs with not only Barr, but also Paul on issues like pro-life and immigration etc. Anarchism is a left-wing ideology, for which there is no real example in the world also.

  46. Stefan Says:

    Conservative Libertarian: Ron Paul also clearly stated he does not endorse any white extremist support.

    Knapp: Do you kow that Kirchzik got the reference to the newsletter in Paul’s name from the leader of the US NAZI party, White, who hates Paul and has an ax to grind with Paul. Kirckzik also suppports the Iraq war and spoke over the phone with White, perhaps met with him. Funny thin that this was never researched.

    Also: some white extremists joined the US Aremy and are serving in Iraq, spraying slogans in Baghdad, and Paul was against the war from the beginning, already since Clinton opened the possibility in the late 1990’s.

    Lew Rockwell was the editor during the late 1990’s when the few referred to passages were written, not Paul at that time as he was busy with his medical practise, serving minorities at times even for free. LRC has said he did not wrote the passages. How can you remember passages that you wrote and which not in a newsletter in your name some 10 plus years ago. Paul wrote about the investment parts, in Gold mines etc. What is wrong with that??? This whole issue has been so overblown….Paul has not uttered one racist word, while McCain has openly used derogatory words towards Asians (and also the “n” word, according to his mother), Hillary Clinton about Jews and Obama has made some comments which are not unproblematic…

  47. Mike Says:

    “let the door hit you on the backside on your way out!”

    Thats one of my favorite quotes! Love it! :D

    And props to Bob Barr for his way of handling the haters. They would do more harm than good. Bob will get my vote this November.

  48. Clark Says:

    LOWELL WAGGED: “And, frankly, you impose yourself on me by being in military service at all.”

    ..but don’t forget, lowell..?your republicrat mercenaries, nation-builders, meddlers, spies, boy scouts, etcetercrats ad goddamned nau$eam, impo$e GREATLY upon us all..

    ...it appears that if ‘the military’ were the size ‘it’ ought to be, any problems/injustice here would be no more than one thousandth what they are now!.. ;o)

    ...but enough of this republicrap!..GIRLS AND BOYS…IT’S TIME FOR ANOTHER CLASSIC “CLARK’S MONEY TIDBIT$”...

    http://www.collectsource.com/time.htm

    ...did you republicrats know that Benjamin Franklin designed ‘...the first coin of the United States of America. On one side of the coin he placed the word Fugio beside a sundial. Fugio in Latin means I Fly, and in conjunction with the sundial it implies “Time Flies.” Franklin also put one of his favorite mottoes, “Mind Your Business” on this side of the coin. With the sun above the sundial, the effect of the design is rather artistic and coveys two of Franklin’s favorite aphorisms: Time Flies, so, Mind Your Business…’

    ..but sadly today we seem to mind others’ business..

    ...sadly today girls and boys, it appears most/all you have spent more of your time/energy learning about michael jackson’s peepee preferences, etc. ad goddamned nauseam, than about the origin, nature, etc.. of the very money which dominate$ your strange republicrat exi$tence!..

    ..or as one wag put it, ‘most/all those republicrat fuckheads doing all that ‘busine$$’ don’t even know what IT is with which they’re doing busine$$!.. ;o)

  49. Pepe Johnson Says:

    Where to begin? Hhmm. Let’s see. First, Mr. Seebeck, you are very welcome, and I wish you many additional years of happiness with your wife.

    Now then, Mr. Lowell.

    First, exactly how do you know my personal opinions on same-sex marriage? Isn’t it possible that I simply oppose the Defense of Marriage Act? That shouldn’t be misconstrued to mean that I think two men should be able to get married and refer to each other as husband and husband. Just because I think we should repeal laws against medical marijuana use doesn’t mean I want to use marijuana. Really, apply a little reasoning to this.

    Second, just because some gay men – drag queens – entered a Catholic Church disrupting and desecrating the communion doesn’t mean that all gay men – especially me – support such acts. This small number of individuals is certainly not representative of the entire gay community. There are thousands – millions – of gay Christians who destroy your assertion – again including me.

    Should I assume that you believe in a number of other stereotypes? In your opinion, do all Italian men beat their wives? Are all the Irish people drunks? Don’t misconstrue the acts of a few to be representative of the whole. Fortunately the vast majority of people on ThirdPartyWatch know the difference. Initially I had thought of ignoring you seeing as how this might be a little off-topic, but I remembered the article is about “haters” so I think it is very much on-topic.

    And finally, I would love to know how my mere presence in the military was an imposition? That one really throws me for a loop. Please cite some actual reasons for your position on this issue. Real, hard evidence, please.

  50. Pepe Johnson Says:

    “In a REAL libertarian society, people have the right to be racist, or to hold any other kind of bigoted view, so long as they don’t initiate the use of force against others.”

    Andy, I can agree to a point. Basically you can believe you are superior to me all you want, but it crosses the line when you advocate or lobby for laws that would infringe on my rights. You wouldn’t have to hire me to work for your privately-owned company, or associate with me. The problem with most racist organizations is that they organize to do something – not merely because they share a common belief. And, in this case, we’re not talking about picnics in the park. Better to steer clear.

  51. disinter Says:

    In a REAL libertarian society, people have the right to be racist, or to hold any other kind of bigoted view, so long as they don’t initiate the use of force against others.

    A TRUE libertarian SHOULD get support from everyone who wants to be left alone, including racists, gays, Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, multi-culturalists, black people, white people, prostitutes, etc…

    REAL freedom is NOT politically correct!

    Well said.

  52. John Lowell Says:

    Johnson,

    You asked a question, I answered it. So there can be no question of what the answer was, I’ll repeated it below for you. Now, go disabuse yourself of the idea that I have some inclination to engage you on the subject.

    “When you posit an equivalence between the cohabitation of same sex persons with a sacramental marriage of persons of opposite sexes you impose yourself on me, sir. You particularly impose yourself on me when you enter the cathedrals of my faith and disrupt Masses there, throwing consecrated hosts on the floor and by later attempting to justify such outrages. You do selfish violence to otherwise innocent, unadopted children by insisting in courts that they be adopted by you and exposed to your disordered sexuality. And, frankly, you impose yourself on me by being in military service at all. I’m sick of you and the not-so-subtle intrusion of your vision of “equal rights” on our public life over the last three decades or so. Is that enough for you?”

  53. Pepe Johnson Says:

    Mr. Lowell, it seems you DO have an inclination to engage in this debate, or else you wouldn’t have responded. Of course, you simply re-posted what you had posted earlier, so I think it safe to assume that you have NO effective response to me or Mr. Seebeck or anyone else here as to why you believe it is okay to establish one set of rules for straight Americans and another set of rules for gay Americans. Isn’t that equality under the law?

  54. disinter Says:

    Anarchism is a left-wing ideology, for which there is no real example in the world also.

    “I am often asked if anarchy has ever existed in our world, to which I answer: almost all of your daily behavior is an anarchistic expression. How you deal with your neighbors, coworkers, fellow customers in shopping malls or grocery stores, is often determined by subtle processes of negotiation and cooperation. Social pressures, unrelated to statutory enactments, influence our behavior on crowded freeways or grocery checkout lines. If we dealt with our colleagues at work in the same coercive and threatening manner by which the state insists on dealing with us, our employment would be immediately terminated. We would soon be without friends were we to demand that they adhere to specific behavioral standards that we had mandated for their lives.

    Should you come over to our home for a visit, you will not be taxed, searched, required to show a passport or driver’s license, fined, jailed, threatened, handcuffed, or prohibited from leaving. I suspect that your relationships with your friends are conducted on the same basis of mutual respect. In short, virtually all of our dealings with friends and strangers alike are grounded in practices that are peaceful, voluntary, and devoid of coercion.”

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer60.html

  55. The Democratic Republican Says:

    Leave it to disinter to show up on a thread where the LP is denouncing racism and quote the racist Lew Rockwell & co. The next person that tries to defend Ron Paul’s newsletters without acknowledge that the racist Lew Rockwell most likely DID write them needs to have a full mental health exam.

    But I’m sure disinter is just being ironic, taking a good moment for the LP and quoting racists to try to distract from it. Well played, disinter.

    Oh, and LRC’s definition of anarchy is just as dumb as pretty much everything you say.

  56. Jasian Says:

    Kenny, the people that believe anything as long as it fits their agenda and it has a url are the morons. That statement was so obviously made up it’s not even worth discussing.

  57. disinter Says:

    eave it to disinter to show up on a thread where the LP is denouncing racism and quote the racist Lew Rockwell & co.

    What evidence do you have that Lew Rockwell and other writers on his site are racist?

  58. Ayn R. Key Says:

    He want LRC to be racist, therefore LRC is racist. In spite of the evidence.

    It’s like how Dondero can’t tell the difference between a Neocon and a Theocon, so therefore they are the same in spite of the evidence.

  59. John Lowell Says:

    Johnson,

    Exactly what part of, “Now, go disabuse yourself of the idea that I have some inclination to engage you on the subject”, don’t you seem to grasp, ace?

  60. Michael Seebeck Says:

    John Lowell made a fool of himself by saying:

    “Reached you, did I Seebeck? Touched just about every religion hating neuron in what it is that substitutes for a mind in your case? Here’s a helpful little suggestion for you, chief: Take your supercilious, amoral pseudo-logic and your noxious anti-Catholicism and stick ‘em both where the moon don’t shine. Then, just as quick as you possibly can, do us all a favor here and find a way back under the rock from which you just slithered.”

    Funny, I never said I hated religion, just that I thought the Catholic ways I used to follow, when looked at from the outside, were just maybe a little silly—kind of like how the Titanic had a little problem with an ice shortage one night. My own opinion. I’ve moved well beyond organized religion into a more personal spirituality, and it is far more rewarding than sitting in a church pew once a week spouting rote memorization lines of a service.

    All you did was apply your own vitriol to an honorable person (Mr. Johnson) and I called you on it. Leaving my own Catholic biases aside, the rest of my points were unimpeachable and you could not and did not address them. You instead responded with more vitriol at me, and in doing so made yourself out to be an obnoxious fool for doing so.

    So, Lowell, until you can form a conhesive and rational thought and not engage in baseless namecalling and other garbage that you spew, I suggest that you take the suggestion you gave to me and apply it to yourself while you STFU.

  61. Michael Seebeck Says:

    One more thing, Lowell, if you think that ANYONE serving our country is an imposition, then you have no respect for those honorable men and women who take that much harder road on all of our behalf, regardless of the politics that put them out there, and you are truly lost. They deserve that honor and respect, and have earned it completely, even with blood and guts and limbs and lives.

    If you can’t respect those that defend you and yours, then you should not expect the same in return.

  62. Pepe Johnson Says:

    I wonder what the families of the two soldiers saved by MAJ Alan G. Rogers think about gay people in the military:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/21/AR2008032103036.html

    Rogers, 40, was killed by a makeshift explosive device in Baghdad on Jan. 27 while in a Humvee. “As God would have it,” his commanding officer wrote to his family in a letter, “he shielded two men who probably would have been killed if Alan had not been there.”

  63. Rich Says:

    Barr does what Ron Paul was too scared to do—extricate himself from assholes that could potentially send him votes and money. Good on Bob.

  64. Joe Rizzo Says:

    For all the talk about the “black vote” and the “Latino vote” –two groups that are explicitly race conscious with federally/corporate funded organizations behind them in most cases —and every other “minority” vote in the land, the fact remains that European Americans vote more than other races.

    I don’t recall the specific number, but I think it states whites vote at about 3 times the rate that other races do. In the face of this, it’s considered a death wish to openly and explicitly court white votes, including those European Americans who hold corresponding views on racial identity like non-whites. The “Southern Strategy” which helped the Republicans win time and time again has now been denounced—by the Republicans as well as the Democrats.

    The LC cult is finished. Don’t let the door hit you in the buttocks on the way to defeat, chumps.

  65. Shlolm Says:

    Obama and the Democrats don’t discourage La Raza, black racists, NAACP, and Jewish-bloc voters from their ranks, why would Barr want to exclude Whites? You shameless politicians. You chase the Black Vote, the Latino Vote, the Asian Vote, the Jewish Vote… but if any White or European-American have a “Vote” they are racist. and “haters”.

    When I vote I’ll try to figure out “Bob who?”

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