Comments on: BREAKING NEWS Upheaval in Chuck Baldwin campaign?

by: Kyle

Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:59:02 +0000

I think we need to pray for Anita. Tonight, she is the most important person in America. We all know Obama, McCain are members of the Council on Foreign Relations which advocates a One World Government of a New World Order. Chuck is the only pro Constitution candidate out there. Anita is his Campaign Manger. We need to build her up and support her, and start working to save the Constitution which hangs by threads.

Tonight, I told 5 new people about Chuck Baldwin; we have to start working for the Constitution one voter at a time; try 5 a day. Do your part.

I believe that God will Bless America as we turn to him; I believe He ordained the Constitution, so we can worship Him and spread His Word; I believe if we begin to teach others, we can win in November.

Stop attacking; start campaigning. Anita probably worked 15 hours on the campaign to save the Constitution today; what did you do to help?

by: Shana

Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:42:48 +0000

I’m on the phone with Anita right now and she said to tell you, “Don’t you guys have something better to do? Whether you support Ron, Chuck or Bob, there’s work to be done, so stop causing all this division and get out there and work. We need to make sure that Obama and McCain DO NOT get into offfice.

And the next person who starts spreading lies about me, I will find you and sue you.”

Folks, I think she means it.

by: Sean Scallon

Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:33:46 +0000

Andrews apparently rubbed some Paulites the wrong way, coming out the meetup groups and giving them some activism points. No one could figure out if she was with the campaign or not. So it’s no suprise that some Paul supporters who want to support Baldwin see her as the new campaign chairman and it drives them nuts and then they go spreading baseless rumors about “upheaval”. Yeah, they’re the one’s “upheaving” themselves from the CP campaign. Good-Bye and Good Riddance!

by: Shana

Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:50:36 +0000

“I will say, conspiracy buffs can have a field day with Anita Andrews. Just a few minutes of scratching around led me to postings where her name has quotes around it, as in “Anita Andrews,” suggesting that this is just a front name for someone who doesn’t want her/his/its real name to be exposed. And allegations that she’s part of a secretive organization called the Clifton Coalition.”

LOL, Anita is real. I’m leaving a message on her voicemail as I write this. She should get a kick out these latest allegations.

BTW, she is absolutely, positively NOT part of the Clifton Coalition.

by: Floo

Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:09:08 +0000

I was in a Kansas City Meetup group, which met one rushed evening with a person named Anita Andrews, some sort of “unofficial” political consultant, who claimed to speak on behalf of the Paul campaign. Talk about Deja Vu. This woman was selling the same business: “Ixnay on the Evolution-Ray”.

by: Clark

Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:08:48 +0000

...btw, the real CLARK did NOT write the screed above!...

...it appears the real CLARK has a copy-cat fan!.. ;o)

by: Donna

Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:46:38 +0000

Thanks, Sean Scallon. Most Libbys and Ron Paul-leaning Libbys will never join the Constitution Party anyway. So, just build your own Party and leave the CP alone.

For everyone else, try reading the CP Platform. Every plank is bridged to the appropriate place in the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, it is not made up of a few people’s thoughts and opinions. It is based on the founding documents of this great nation. If you find fault with the Constitution, then stay where you are.

Also, for those of you who ridicule the religious aspect of the CP, ask yourself, “where are all the so-called self-professing Christian leaders, i.e. Dr. James Dobson, et al?” They haven’t joined the CP or at least made a public announcement of support and/or endorsement. The last I read in mainstream media is they are wringing their hands wondering how to justify their support of McCain. Now that’s something to talk about.

by: Sean Scallon

Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:37:58 +0000

The last thing Rev. Baldwin needs is to be caught up in the flotsam and jetsam of the Ron Paul movement. As much I as love the movement, like all movements it’s also filled with crazy people, people scared of their shadows (which in itself is a conspiracy theory), people in it for themsleves and their pet projects, people with delusions of grandure and just plain delusional people.

No doubt Rev. Baldwin and the CP would love to get as many Paul supporters as possible, but like the Barr campaign, this is not a stalkinghorse for Ron Paul. If you support Rev. Baldwin, its reasonable to expect you also support the CP platform which he fully supports. Some many not like what’s in that platform, so they better understand who and what they’re getting involved with before they try an hijack the campaign.

By the way, has the “Ron Paul Billionare” given so much as a dime yet? You see what I mean? Whoever these Paul supporters are with agendas, please stay away from Baldwin and Barr and let them run their own campaigns OK? Is that too much to ask?

by: Harvey Edwards

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:39:31 +0000

My Comment will be short. I have read opinion after opinion and many say things like ” So and so should have done things this way or that”. The writers many time are repeating hearsay. I then see the folks even claiming to support Pastor Chuck to say we must understand that we don’t have a chance.

All this is divisive, you can see it, especially when the “trolls” come on to openly try convincing you to change your positions. The Trolls are on to something, if they can divide, they can conquer and overcome.

There was something said during the conference call that is still resonating in my head as much as it also did the day I decided to give my all for this campaign. “GODS Guiding hand is moving this campaign. If folks want to laugh and ridicule this as they have here, to me thats fine. God is my personal reason for being with this party.

by: Clark

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:02:33 +0000

Chuck Baldwin, and the Constitution party does not Support Ron Paul, and more importantly the Revolution. I know for a Fact that scandinavian is correct, on his posting. In the world of Politics here in our great Country, we must all pick sides, Follower or Leader!
Chuck Baldwin in the past did support Ron Paul, but recently decided to leave the Revolution fight, and go his own way. (All BECAUSE OF Anita) who happens to be his new campaign manager. Anita is not a trust worthy person, if you do your research you will see that scandinavian is right. Now I am not saying that Chuck is a bad man…to the contrary, he is a lost soul, who is FOLLOWING instead of LEADING! He wants so badly to be President, or to at least have a shot, that he sold out his grassroots group, and most importantly his scrubbles.
I prayer is that Pastor Chuck…(the godly man within) will stand up, and realize that ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS he will ever ACCOMPLISH in LIFE is to STAND UP FOR GOD, and in doing SO STAND UP FOR AMERICA by SUPPORTING THE REVOLUTION! Chuck you Need to FIGHT FOR THE OLD ways of America, and STOP reaching for dollar signs. It’s ok your only human, but you need to PICK up the Revolution again and if that means telling those in the constitution party who disagree with you to take a hike, then DO SO!
ALL EYES are on YOU to stand up and make the mistake of leaving the revolution…in the past, and fixing the future. YOU MUST CHOSE SIDES NOW! THIS IS YOUR TIME…and WHAT YOU DO KNOW will determine who you are, and what kind of presidential run you will have…CHOSE Gods SIDE…the REVOLUTION side then you WILL BE SUCCESSFUL! But chose to follow the bad leadership, and the bad guidance of the wealthy in charge of your campaign, you WILL NOT MAKE IT!
I am SURE THAT Anita has good qualities…but one must ALSO ask the very important questions about this person:
1) Why has she been allegedly in over 100 campaigns? AND what is her TRACK RECORD? It sounds to me like SEVERAL of them, if NOT MOST of them were FAILURES! Yes she may be able to bring into you financial support, and that seems to be what you WANT more than to STAND UP for your fellow man at this time…but at the END OF THE DAY MONEY is only MONEY!
2) Why was Anita FIRED BY THE RON PAUL CAMPAIGN? That’s RIGHT she WAS FIRED! So any PERSON would REALIZE that she is ONLY TRYING TO GET EVEN WITH RON PAUL, and those who FIRED HER! This is a Vindictive human response. One can only WONDER WHAT HER REAL INTENTIONS ARE?!
3) Why does she DISAPPEAR a lot in her role as campaign manager….she has been KNOWN to be Flighty if you will….SO WHY?
It SEEMS that ALTHOUGH scandinavian may have gone about things the wrong way, perhaps out of anger, or frustration…..HE HAS STRUCK A CORD…or a Artery in the Constitution party…you can see the results of that very thing, by the way the Party has lashed out, and tried to plaster HALF TRUE statements by this person on the internet. THAT IS ONLY A REACTION OF A CHILD the party is acting VERY CHILDISH and NEEDS TO LOOK AT ITS SELF WHY has it taken the Constitution party so LONG to TRY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, yet they STILL FIGHT each other…... IF THEY DONT STOP it they will never EVEN BE A THREAT to the Democrats, nor Republicans.
This Message is written in the intent to MAKE YOU ALL THINK! Remember if it looks like a snake, crawl’s like a snake, and acts like a snake CHANCES ARE IT IS A SNAKE! It is for you DECIDED who I am referring to the Snake, yet it should BE pretty clear! (Just FOOD FOR THOUGHT)! If I GET BACK attacks for this statement, and QUESTIONS then ONE can only Assume that it is TRUE!

by: Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAFR

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:45:31 +0000

What a bunch of “B.S.” !! I was on the conference call too bud! I did NOT hear ANYTHING that pointed to Chuck or the CP to dis-associate ourselves, in principle from the great patriot RON PAUL. WE ARE OUR OWN CAMPAIGN…Chuck Baldwin for President. Chuck is NOT Ron Paul, however, he has much respect for Ron. WE ALL DO! Yes, Chuch “IS” his own man. Da! Why not? Let him stand on his own merits. He doesn’t have to cling on to Ron’s apron strings. THIS IS NOT ALL ABOUT RON PAUL OR “ANY” ONE MAN. It is a movement…..a “constitutional movement”...
a CONSTITUTION REVOLUTION !! NO ONE MAN has a monopoly on it.
Let Ron do what he has to do and let Chuck (or anyone else) do what they have to do. Quit worrying about childish SPECULATION. Do your duty and leave the rest up to God. Some of you guys need to get a life.

Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.)USAF
NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION
Constitution party…www.nvets.org

by: Catholic Trotskyist

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:01:25 +0000

Thanks JJ for your compelling reasoned endorsement of Obama. Many glorious people like you will join you, and bring Obama over the top. Amen.

by: Cody Quirk

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:28:25 +0000

The Constitution Party might believe in Constitutional federalism, but they also believe in a bunch of moralistic authoritarian laws on the state level. Plus they insist on being an explicitly Christian party, which has nothing to do with liberty and the Constitution.

= Where did they say that they were a ‘explicity christian party’? Show me the evidence.

And the “moralistic authoritarian” laws you whine about were laws at one time, some still are, and were 100% constitutional.

I guess then laws against child pornography and restrictions on sex offenders are “moralistic authoritarian” indeed!

(sarcasm off)

by: Cody Quirk

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:19:36 +0000

I think there should be a new rule on TPW to not publish anything without the (reliable) evidence or links to back it up.

by: Cody Quirk

Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:17:52 +0000

Actually, “White Horse Prophecy Party” may be more accurate. “Mormon Party” may be a good short-hand for the political party now calling itself the “Constitution Party.”

= If our party was explicity Mormon, I wouldn’t be a member, I don’t care for political parties dominated and dictated by one faith.

“Mormon state” may be a good name for Minnesota, since it went to Romney in the Primary.