Tom DeLay’s wife is supporting Bob Barr. Time to start forming Patti Davis support groups?
According to the video below, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey has said that “many Republicans will vote for Libertarian candidates in House races.”
The Washington Times is reporting that former House Whip Tom DeLay’s wife plans to pull the Bob Barr lever on Election Day:
Tom DeLay will vote for John McCain but the former House Republican leader said his wife, Christine, is planning to vote for Libertarian presidential nominee Bob Barr.“I’m trying to convince my wife not to do that,” the Texas Republican told editors and reporters at The Washington Times on Friday. “She said it publicly yesterday.”
UPDATE: “John McCain has done more to hurt the Republican Party than any elected official I know of,” Tom DeLay stated in January.
Recently, the LA Times reported that Hillary Clinton’s brother Tony Rodham is considering doing the same thing:
“If my sister doesn’t end up with the nomination, I gotta take a look at who I’m gonna vote for,” he said.Horrors.
Does that mean, Fiore asked, Rodham would vote for Republican John McCain?
“I didn’t say that. It could be Bob Barr,” he said, referring to the Libertarian presidential candidate who, as a House member from Georgia, was a prime player in the impeachment of Rodham’s brother-in-law, Bill Clinton).
Jenna Bush may be considering the same, according to this analysis by the American Spectator’s Robert Stacy McCain:
Taking her comments to Larry King entirely out of context, both CNN and the Examiner suggest the blonde First Daughter won’t vote for John McCain.Be still, my beating heart! While I don’t want to discourage any bloggers from wild speculation about a “Jenna-Chelsea double-team” (?!) I’m wondering if maybe the problem is that Crazy Cousin John isn’t conservative enough for Jenna. Maybe she’s thinking about supporting Bob Barr on the Libertarian ticket. Read Jenna’s quote again:
“I mean, who isn’t open to learning about the candidates and I’m sure that everybody’s like that.”See? She’s got that libertarian open-minded thing going on, and it just so happens that Barr will be in D.C. Saturday for the White House Correspondents Dinner.
As a side note, Julie Nixon Eisenhower is supporting Barack Obama right now.
Of course, Patti Davis was well-known as “Ronald Reagan’s Renegade Daughter” (link not safe for work).
As the Examiner seems to suggest, perhaps it’s time to get some Patti Davis support groups started around the country.
Here’s the Armey/DeLay video:
June 8th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Much of the GOP has is in denial, but Armey and Delay understand how Bush has ruined the party that Goldwater, Reagan, Armey and others tried to build. McCain will be orders of magnitude worse than Bush. McCain supports the Eurocrat “cap and trade” nightmare. On Thursday, he said that the government should spend countless billions of our tax dollars to send a main to Mars. For what reason??? Bob Barr did a great job on Glen Beck. Given how low the GOP has sunk, I’m starting to believe that Barr could wind up with Perot-like numbers or better.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
If John McCain is not conservative enough for Jenna Bush, what would make Bob Barr a better conservative?
Barr is no conservative, at least not any more. Barr is a flip flopper and not a candidate that conservatives should turn.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Only if we can form Jacobite support group for the neo-Trotskyites.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
As a Reagan fan, I found myself sympethetic to Patti. She disagreed with her dad on some issues, like foreign policy. Ronald Reagan is the one who said the thing about the heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. His daughter, who has been really supportive of him since he died, seems to be the bridge to the left.
I can see a lot of blue-collar Democrats voting for Bob Barr, just like they did for Reagan. I can see the Patti Davis’s of the world supporting him.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
No less than 10% of the American electorate this year intends to vote for a third party candidate, and it’s about time. Barr might not be 100% ideal for every conservative out there, but McCain and Obama might just as well be Bush for all of the “change” they’ll bring to Washington. We need to start somewhere.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Ben Miller seems just like purist libertarians. He considers it bad for one’s political views to move in the direction of freedom.
To the purist libertarian, Barr, (and most of the rest of us) who weren’t born 100% libertarian in their eyes, will never be good enough for them. After they invite us in to the party with open arms, they spend all of their energy insulting and attacking us.
To the Miller-type conservatives, a long-term and well-documented political conversion is considered flip-flopping. There is a considerable difference between Mitt Romney and Bob Barr.
To me, I’m telling both of these groups to go get screwed. I’m voting for the best candidate for America, not the best candidate for the fringe extreme ideologues.
I’m voting American. I’m voting Bob Barr.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
‘To the Miller-type conservatives, a long-term and well-documented political conversion is considered flip-flopping.’
Barr’s partial repudiation of DOMA came at the eleventh hour in Denver, and was itself repudiated the next Monday.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Barr wants to keep the good part of DOMA and get rid of the bad part. What’s the problem?
I know what the problem is to some folks. Barr wants to provide a limited-government solution for most Americans and not the anarchistic bomb-throwing response for a few nutjobs out there.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Raise the Barr baby. Barr will be the new Perot ! Please donate to www.bobbarr2008.com if Barr is not on the ballots it is all irrelevant. We need to get on West Virginia. West Virginia voters will definetly not vote Obama as seen in the Primary and they are not in love with McCain either, this is a great opportunity for Barr . Please donate today to make this happen, the window for petitions is closing fast and we don’t have many people on the streets.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Would it be because Barf doesn’t have any support?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
The problem is he authored the bad part. The man is simply pandering to gullible idiots like yourself. Barf has no principles.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
To disinter:
He wants to get rid of the bad part he authored. It sounds like you don’t approve. Do you want to keep the bad part?
To David Tomlin:
There were some crazy as 9/11 truther people protesting Waco back then. Maybe that was what Barr was talking about. He clearly fought hard against government aggression in the Waco case, but maybe he doesn’t want to be associated with the nutjobs.
June 8th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Maybe there isn’t a “good” part either, think of that?
June 8th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Yea, considering the nutjobs/”troofers” are able to raise more money in a few days than Barf can raise after begging for months:
http://infowarsmoneybomb.com/
June 8th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
No FUBAR in 2008. Barr is big government. He is the same Barr that he was years ago. A complete waste of time.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
I’m on board with Bob Barr. Thank goodness I have somebody to vote for Obama and McCain just don’t cut it.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
This is just the beginning you will see more and more people endorse Barr ! Go Bar Go. This is the most positive exposure to the Libertarian Party we’ve had.
244K and counting….... Here we go baby
June 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
It’s all about letting Freedom grow ! The word is getting out !
June 8th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Awesomedawsom Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
I’m on board with Bob Barr. Thank goodness I have somebody to vote for Obama and McCain just don’t cut it.
No shit, everybody is welcomed in this bandwagon ! Just bought 3 bumper stickers. The best one I liked from Cafeexpress is “OBAMA MCCAIN FUCT IN 2008” I also bought the one that says: “THIS IS WHEN YOU VOTE LIBERTARIAN” I love it !
June 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Disinter is an ass. Still living in the past. Still spewing hate. Still saying nothing positive. Still saying nothing productive or constructive. All Disinter knows to do is tear people down. He is so obssessed with trying to make Barr look bad he probably masterbates to him. You are a sick Fuck
June 8th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Disinter only masterbates to kiddie porn
June 8th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Here’s what the absolutists in the LP don’t understand – the purpose of a political party is to win elections and affect change. The LP has been stalled for 28, as LP presidential candidates have struggled and mostly failed to get even half the votes Ed Clark won in 1980. Now the LP has nominated someone who has a chance to put them on the map, and the party stalwarts are screaming bloody murder. Some of us don’t have time to waste with people who aren’t serious about actually accomplishing something, which is why I haven’t been involved in the LP since Ron Paul ran in 1988. In spite of the rhetoric, Barr is libertarian-enough and he’ll attract all kinds libertarian-enough voters to make our voice heard. That will be more progress than the absolutists can stomach.
June 8th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Thank you eric !
June 8th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Picture of Barf:
http://archimedes.galilei.com/stlcofcc/blogimages/bob-barr-cofcc.jpg
June 8th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Very well put Eric. Agreed!
June 8th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-06-08/what-should-ron-paul-do-interim-results/
June 8th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
On CNN they mentioned an astonishing 44@%of Republicans prefer “someone other” above John Sidney McCain, which is a pretty high number of dissatisfaction.
“And Ron Paul and Bob Barr threaten to crash John McCain’s party.
“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356620,00.html
Ron Paul would not publicly endorse Barr over Baldwin or visa versa. Ron Paul is perhaps the single politician that can “unify” both the CP and LP.
The LP has better ballot access than the CP.
If Paul would decide in conjunction with Barr and Baldwin for an entry into the race (both Baldwin and Barr would give way to him) as “wiggle room” given a “perfect storm” (e.g. things developing further over the coming weeks, exclusion and ignorance of Paul by the GOP, promise of high net worth voters to contribute big time to a Paul run, further tanking of the economy, lower usd, higher oil price, the Scott McLennan book, Iraq war situation, hints at possible Obama and McCain VP selections etc.), he could shake things up, whereby he either run as an Indy with support of Barr and Baldwin (perhaps too late for ballot access?) or Barr give way to him with a Paul-Barr LP ticket, and Barr-Paul in the 4,5 states with the “sore loser” clause… I am not advocating a third party run, just as Paul, but given a dynamic situation, there opportunity may arise. (One wonders wether Paul has to give up his congress seat or whether there would be an alternative opportunity. If there would be a re-election eventually Paul may well win as an Indy/LP in his own district against “Peden”? as a GOP candidate, the Dems would not have any chance and they will actually vote for Paul above a GOP candidate like Peden, whow as already beaten almost 71-29). The ROn Paul Republicans who won their primaries, will be supported by the GOP voters in any case and the party base would have to support them,
also if Paul would be not in the GOP.
Many Reagan Republicans, Reagan Democrats, Independents and conservative Greens may vote for a Paul-Barr ticket, much more than a “Barr-Root” and “Baldwijn-Castle” combined ticket…
Also consider this:
“McCain Despite New All Time High Still Behind Democrats and Ron Paul”.
http://reptrust.mygopsite.com/2008/06/08/mccain-despite-new-all-time-high-still-behind-democrats-and-ron-paul/
June 9th, 2008 at 6:01 am
Ron Paul might well win an all-internet election.
Here’s an interesting article on DOMA and related matters.
http://www.equalitygiving.org/Sa…of-Marriage- Act
June 9th, 2008 at 6:08 am
Whether all or part of DOMA should be repealed is beside the point I was making when I brought up DOMA. The point is that Barr changed his position twice in three days, and since then has avoided discussing the subject.
June 9th, 2008 at 6:11 am
Sorry, the above link should be
http://www.equalitygiving.org/Same-Sex-Marriage-California-Defense-of-Marriage-Act
June 9th, 2008 at 7:20 am
“UPDATE: “John McCain has done more to hurt the Republican Party than any elected official I know of,” Tom DeLay stated in January.”
That’s really rich coming from Tom DeLay!
June 9th, 2008 at 7:48 am
....AGAIN, YOU STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID BARFCRATS..
..IF YOUR GOAL IS TO GET THE MOST VOTES FOR THE LP…NOMINATE, SAY, HILLARY CLINTON THIS ELECTION…
...HILLARIZE THE PLATFORM, KISS HER ASS, AND NOMINATE HER..
..SHE WOULD/WILL GET 20 TIMES AS MANY VOTES AS YOUR STINKING REPUBLICAN WARMONGER, DRUG WARMONGER, MONETARY IGNORAMUS, HYPOCRITE, NATIONAL SALES TAX $HILL, HOMOPHOBE, WHIPPED CREAM TITTY LICKER WITH MORE BAGGAGE THAN O’HARE AIRPORT etc. ad goddamned nauseam!..
(or merely stfu so your shame becomes less famous, you stooooooopid disaffected republican fuckheads!..) ;o) good day!
June 9th, 2008 at 9:50 am
A Declaration of Withdrawal from the Republican Party
My reasons for leaving the Party that I’ve felt at home in since I became politically aware are numerous. I will start with quoting countless conservatives who feel as I do – I didn’t so much leave the Republican Party, it was the Party that left me. The elected Republican officials failed to implement a conservative agenda, despite having the Presidency and both houses of congress. No Child Left Behind, Prescription Drug Entitlements; they even tried to force Amnesty for illegal aliens upon us. They have given us a government that would make even LBJ blush. Our businesses and land have more regulatory red tape to deal with than ever.
Where is the Republican Party that stood for limited government, personal responsibility, a strong national defense, and against being the world’s policeman? As recently as the 90’s Republicans railed against a foreign policy of “making the world safe for democracy”, (which is historically the Democrats foreign policy, ala Woodrow Wilson) when Bill Clinton was President and he took us to war in Bosnia and Kosovo, without U.N. approval I might add. Which reminds me, the United Nations is something the GOP used to believe we needed to get out of, not an institution to be defended when a rogue nation violates U.N. resolutions.
I am also reminded of former Senator Robert Taft, who was known in his day as Mr. Republican, when he said “I do not believe any policy which has behind it the threat of military force is justified as part of the basic foreign policy of the United States except to defend the liberty of our own people” and my favorite President – Thomas Jefferson, who said “peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, and entangling alliances with none.”
From its inception, the Republican Party advocated a humble foreign policy in line with our founding fathers recommendations, now, with John McCain as the leader and voice of the GOP, we are told to get behind his idea for a “League of Democracies” which sounds terrifyingly similar to Wilson and his Progressive Democrats “League of Nations” almost 100 years ago.
We are also being told by McCain that we will have to Cap and Trade our liberty and our pursuit of happiness in the fight against global warming, essentially that if we don’t give government more money and power, utopia will never be reached.
Some have told me that I should support him because he will appoint conservative judges, but I ask these questions – 1. Who’s definition of conservative are we talking about? And 2. Why would I trust the man on this issue when he is one of the “Gang of 14” who was blocking President Bush’s conservative lower federal court and Circuit Courts of Appeal judicial nominees? I would also remind you of his historical propensity to appease those even more liberal than himself. His version of “reaching across the aisle” looks more like a group hug when he crafts legislation like the McCain / Kennedy and McCain / Feingold bills. McCain / Feingold happens to be the reason McCain should not get the NRA’s endorsement, the NRA spent years fighting this trampling of our 1st amendment rights. McCain has not been the solid 2nd amendment supporter he would like you to believe he is – he had a barely passing “C” grade from the NRA in his last senate run in 04’ , and in 2000 worked with Americans for Gun Safety, an anti-gun group with a deceiving name.
The differences between McCain and Obama are minimal, when you consider that both believe big government can save you from yourself, and that we can save other nations from themselves as well. Given McCain’s track record of conciliatory dealings with Democrats, I fear what this man would do with a Democratic House and Senate. I will not play along with the game of lesser of two evils, as I believe that is part of what has plunged this nation into the mess we find ourselves today.
Once upon a time the Republican Party stood against special interests, corruption and abuse of power. Today their candidates campaign is “ of the lobbyist, by the lobbyist, for the lobbyist.” A man who admits Washington’s corruption has tainted him. Google Keating 5 and read all about it.
The Republican Party today would be unrecognizable to my favorite Republicans of yesterday, such as Barry Goldwater, who said “ A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.” President Eisenhower, who warned us of the Military Industrial Complex, and one whose party membership is a surprise to many today but shouldn’t be, Martin Luther King Jr. “ Violence is a poor chisel for carving out peaceful tomorrows.” The party is just as unrecognizable to myself and others of my generation.
I had to draw a line in the sand, and the Republican Party wasted no time in crossing it, when they and the President pushed for “economic stimulus checks.” The only problem is this, the money isn’t money that we have, its money we are borrowing, and our excessive borrowing becomes a tax on future generations, as we wont be paying it off any time soon. Want to try to sell this as economically conservative? Excessive borrowing and spending has the added affect of devaluing our currency, so it acts as a hidden tax on us today. As I heard one of the presidential candidates say in regards to these stimulus checks, “ Whose economy are we stimulating here? Ours or Chinas? We are borrowing more money from China so everyone can go buy more stuff made in China.” I get it, others in the GOP get it, so why doesn’t the party leadership?
I can’t take anymore disrespect for conservative values, and unless the Republican Party wakes up and gets it’s head on straight real soon, I will be taking my vote, my time, energy, money, and passion from the GOP and taking it to the Libertarian Party to send a message to the Republican leadership that I will not be taken for granted. I believe that it is solid conservatism that wins the day and elections – limited government, individual responsibility, and a strong national DEFENSE (secure the borders!), not conciliation and surrender to Democrats to the point that our differences become blurry.
The Libertarian Party seems to be a perfect temporary home, the GOP has its work cut out if its sincere about winning me back, even President Reagan said “Libertarianism is the very heart and soul of conservatism.” I will be doing everything I can to sway like minded conservatives to join me in this exodus and vote for Bob Barr for President and Wayne Root for Vice President on the Libertarian ticket. Both of them were recently Republicans, and are among those countless conservatives I‘ve heard myself say “ It wasn’t that I left the Republican Party, it was the Party that left me.”
Please visit bobbarr2008.com and give conservatism a voice in the Presidential debates and beyond.
Thanks and God Bless, from Zak Carter
June 9th, 2008 at 11:24 am
I’m sorry—Bob Barr representing libertarianism as “true conservatism” that appeals to the likes of Tom DeLay and the Bush family is supposed to be… a good thing? That might be good tact to get a few extra votes from the right-wing talk radio crowd, but I’m none too thrilled about libertarianism being even more associated with the likes of Glenn Beck, a “self-described libertarian” according to the Barr campaign.
It’s beginning to look like the old description of libertarians as just “Republicans who smoke pot” is actually too kind. Now libertarians are just “real Republicans.” Great.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
It’s a strategy that’s been tried, well forever, and failed- the “true conservative” Republican thing.
Republicans voted for Bush twice. Even some so-called libertarians voted for that guy in 2004. To me anyone who still supported Bush at that point ( and now) and is part of a party that nominated McCain ain’t jumping ship to support a “’true conservative/libertarian”, at least not in significant numbers.
The GOP is even more lock-step than the Democrats and even less principled. It’s all a partisan thing and no one really cares about the issues.
Anyone who REALLY cared about being a “true conservative” probably already left years ago.
I don’t want to be associated with rightwing nutjobs whatsoever. I am not a “Truther” and have complained about Truthers before, but I’ll take most of them before “conservative” wackjobs.
June 10th, 2008 at 4:49 am
I’m personally voting for the “Constitution Party” candidate Chuck Baldwinthis year. I voted for their candidate in 2004 because the Republican’s left me years ago.
Here are the two basic differences between the “Constitution” and “Libertarian” parties.
The “Constitution Party” gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States. (From their platform)
“Libertarians” maintain the universal belief that a man owns himself, and by extension that which he makes. Therefore, “moral relativism” fits into their party platform without much dispute. I’m opposed to “secular humanism.”
This is the biggest “fundamental” difference between the two party’s. It’s also the reason I personally can’t support the “Libertarian” party candidate. Bob Barr’s a good guy, I just don’t like their party platform.
If this makes me a conservative “wack job,” then so be it!
June 10th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Barr has a 98 LIFETIME ACU rating. His last year in Congress it was 100. Barr is the man. He’s a conservative/libertarian and he has my vote. First time I will have voted for something other than a Republican.