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	<title>Comments on: Comparing Ron Paul and Bob Barr on the crucial issues of the day</title>
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		<title>by: Jake Witmer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I will vote for Barr in order to make it easier for the LP (and Barr's VP Wayne Root) to gain ballot access in 2012, 2016, and 2020.  I will only promote Barr if he becomes a proponent of jury rights (judges informing juries and defense lawyers of their right to jury nullification of law).

Still, the biggest issue of them all is our enslavement to the federal reserve system.  I'm glad to see Barr making a statement about that...

Read &quot;The Creature from Jekyll Island&quot; for more details about the Fed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I will vote for Barr in order to make it easier for the <span class="caps">LP </span>(and Barr&#8217;s <span class="caps">VP </span>Wayne Root) to gain ballot access in 2012, 2016, and 2020.  I will only promote Barr if he becomes a proponent of jury rights (judges informing juries and defense lawyers of their right to jury nullification of law).</p>
	<p>Still, the biggest issue of them all is our enslavement to the federal reserve system.  I&#8217;m glad to see Barr making a statement about that&#8230;</p>
	<p>Read &#8220;The Creature from Jekyll Island&#8221; for more details about the Fed.</p>
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		<title>by: td</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron Paul did more than just run a revolutionary campaign. He jolted many sleeping Americans into awareness. People are asking questions, and the Democrats and Republicans aren't answering them. The LP and others are.
Bob Barr is turning out to be the candidate representing a much needed step in the right direction.

He has my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul did more than just run a revolutionary campaign. He jolted many sleeping Americans into awareness. People are asking questions, and the Democrats and Republicans aren&#8217;t answering them. The LP and others are.<br />
Bob Barr is turning out to be the candidate representing a much needed step in the right direction.</p>
	<p>He has my vote.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Krop</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-652243</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The problem the Libertarian party has is the mind set of the general public.
Libertarian political thoughts are based on logic and education. The vast majority 's thoughts are based on emotion, combined with ignorance and apathy.

The longest journey begins with the first step. One can recite the alphabet
 A,Z instead of A throughZ.  Too many people think the Libertarian Party is radical, because they know zero, zip, nada, about the history of this country or it's form of government.  Rather than trying to fix everything thats wrong in one shot is foolish. We need to evaluate how solving one problem will cure others. I suggest the FairTax as the first step. It's passage will create a domino effect that will cure many other problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The problem the Libertarian party has is the mind set of the general public.<br />
Libertarian political thoughts are based on logic and education. The vast majority &#8217;s thoughts are based on emotion, combined with ignorance and apathy.</p>
	<p>The longest journey begins with the first step. One can recite the alphabet</p>
	<p> A,Z instead of A throughZ.  Too many people think the Libertarian Party is radical, because they know zero, zip, nada, about the history of this country or it&#8217;s form of government.  Rather than trying to fix everything thats wrong in one shot is foolish. We need to evaluate how solving one problem will cure others. I suggest the FairTax as the first step. It&#8217;s passage will create a domino effect that will cure many other problems.
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		<title>by: Mitchell Abeln</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Revolution Continues on July 2nd 2008,
Help give Americans a choice, pledge to donate on July 2nd 2008, barrbomb.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Revolution Continues on July 2nd 2008,<br />
Help give Americans a choice, pledge to donate on July 2nd 2008, barrbomb.com</p>
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		<title>by: Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-649123</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bob Barr is looking to be a mighty fine candidate! 

I would love for this election year to be crazy like in the movies... Obama's rise in popularity and then a meteoric crash, McCain mostly ignored and debated even by his own party, and the whole nation catches a contageous Bob Barr fever - he'd rate high in the polls, shine in the debates, and then people across the country would say, &quot;Heck, I'm voting for Barr!&quot; and then... shockingly... (drum roll please)... he would WIN!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bob Barr is looking to be a mighty fine candidate!</p>
	<p>I would love for this election year to be crazy like in the movies&#8230; Obama&#8217;s rise in popularity and then a meteoric crash, McCain mostly ignored and debated even by his own party, and the whole nation catches a contageous Bob Barr fever &#8211; he&#8217;d rate high in the polls, shine in the debates, and then people across the country would say, &#8220;Heck, I&#8217;m voting for Barr!&#8221; and then&#8230; shockingly&#8230; (drum roll please)... he would <span class="caps">WIN</span><img src="!" alt="" border="0" />!!</p>
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		<title>by: Jim Peterson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I supported Ron Paul but I disagreed with him on the need for the initial part of Operation Iraqi Freedom and his taking such a strong position against abortion (a suicide position when one wants the votes of a lot of women). Most countries have a workable compromise on abortion that causes abortion rates to be much lower than they are in the Roe vs Wade USA.

I also had a problem with his extremist, unrealistic attitude on a lot of things from abolishing the Fed to eliminating the income tax seemingly immediately. He needed to have presented a timetable for everything except the Iraq withdrawal (I agree with Barr that you don't telegraph to enemies exactly when you will do something like that).

The reason I want Ron Paul or Barr is because they (Paul and Tancredo at least) opposed new laws like VAWA and IMBRA, the former which allows women to falsely accuse men of violence to clean up financially or gain instant US residency documents...and the latter of which forces dating websites to background check Americans before they are allowed to say hello to foreigners.

So...if Barr can show that he is more realistic on the issues while otherwise being close to Ron Paul...I will vote for him and work for him in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I supported Ron Paul but I disagreed with him on the need for the initial part of Operation Iraqi Freedom and his taking such a strong position against abortion (a suicide position when one wants the votes of a lot of women). Most countries have a workable compromise on abortion that causes abortion rates to be much lower than they are in the Roe vs Wade <span class="caps">USA</span>.</p>
	<p>I also had a problem with his extremist, unrealistic attitude on a lot of things from abolishing the Fed to eliminating the income tax seemingly immediately. He needed to have presented a timetable for everything except the Iraq withdrawal (I agree with Barr that you don&#8217;t telegraph to enemies exactly when you will do something like that).</p>
	<p>The reason I want Ron Paul or Barr is because they (Paul and Tancredo at least) opposed new laws like <span class="caps">VAWA</span> and <span class="caps">IMBRA</span>, the former which allows women to falsely accuse men of violence to clean up financially or gain instant US residency documents&#8230;and the latter of which forces dating websites to background check Americans before they are allowed to say hello to foreigners.</p>
	<p>So&#8230;if Barr can show that he is more realistic on the issues while otherwise being close to Ron Paul&#8230;I will vote for him and work for him in Europe.</p>
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		<title>by: David Tomlin</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-648870</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rocky Mountain News

May 22, 2008

Bob Barr: As President I would completely re-orient federal law enforcement priorities, that currently are skewed far too much against marijuana possession, and would consider all - and I do mean all - options.

Q: [I]f you are elected president of the United States, would you consider using U.S. military to intervene in Central and South America to stop drug traffickers?

Bob Barr: I would consider the use of US military in Central and S. America only if there were a clear and present threat to identifiable and appropriate US personnel, agencies, or security interests.

The Washington Times
Column by Bob Barr
June 9, 2007

As the world's largest producer by far of cocaine, Colombia occupies a pivotal position in the U.S. effort to stem the tide of illicit drug trafficking in our country. While his predecessors offered lip-service and inconsistent support for American law enforcement's efforts to seriously limit the cocaine coming to the U.S. from Colombia, President Uribe literally has placed his own life in danger by going after the drug production and financing networks that have taken hold in his country over the last four decades.

Recognizing Colombia's essential role in our country's campaign against illicit trafficking in cocaine, the Bush administration and prior Congresses have responded to Mr. Uribe's efforts by funding &quot;Plan Colombia&quot; to the tune over its seven-year lifespan of more than $5.0 billion. . . . If Congress truly wants the plan work better, the solution would be not to dry up funding but to provide more flexibility for its implementation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rocky Mountain News</p>
	<p>May 22, 2008</p>
	<p>Bob Barr: As President I would completely re-orient federal law enforcement priorities, that currently are skewed far too much against marijuana possession, and would consider all &#8211; and I do mean all &#8211; options.</p>
	<p>Q: [I]f you are elected president of the United States, would you consider using U.S. military to intervene in Central and South America to stop drug traffickers?</p>
	<p>Bob Barr: I would consider the use of US military in Central and S. America only if there were a clear and present threat to identifiable and appropriate US personnel, agencies, or security interests.</p>
	<p>The Washington Times<br />
Column by Bob Barr<br />
June 9, 2007</p>
	<p>As the world&#8217;s largest producer by far of cocaine, Colombia occupies a pivotal position in the U.S. effort to stem the tide of illicit drug trafficking in our country. While his predecessors offered lip-service and inconsistent support for American law enforcement&#8217;s efforts to seriously limit the cocaine coming to the U.S. from Colombia, President Uribe literally has placed his own life in danger by going after the drug production and financing networks that have taken hold in his country over the last four decades.</p>
	<p>Recognizing Colombia&#8217;s essential role in our country&#8217;s campaign against illicit trafficking in cocaine, the Bush administration and prior Congresses have responded to Mr. Uribe&#8217;s efforts by funding &#8220;Plan Colombia&#8221; to the tune over its seven-year lifespan of more than $5.0 billion. . . . If Congress truly wants the plan work better, the solution would be not to dry up funding but to provide more flexibility for its implementation.</p>
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		<title>by: Zod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Which came first, the massive overspending or the income taxes?

It all went down in 1913:
February 3 - Congress passes the 16th Amendment.
October 2 - Congress passe the Revenue Act.
December 23 - Congress passes the Federal Reserve Act.

Don't you see? It was necessary for Congress to have a guarenteed source of revenue as collateral for borrowing money. Income taxes provide that collateral. So, while it's true that revenue from taxes has nothing to do with federal spending, it has everything to do with federal debt.

The Fair tax would eliminate income taxes and effectively eliminating Congress's gaurenteed collateral thereby cutting it off from it's foreign and domestic lenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Which came first, the massive overspending or the income taxes?</p>
	<p>It all went down in 1913:<br />
February 3 &#8211; Congress passes the 16th Amendment.<br />
October 2 &#8211; Congress passe the Revenue Act.<br />
December 23 &#8211; Congress passes the Federal Reserve Act.</p>
	<p>Don&#8217;t you see? It was necessary for Congress to have a guarenteed source of revenue as collateral for borrowing money. Income taxes provide that collateral. So, while it&#8217;s true that revenue from taxes has nothing to do with federal spending, it has everything to do with federal debt.</p>
	<p>The Fair tax would eliminate income taxes and effectively eliminating Congress&#8217;s gaurenteed collateral thereby cutting it off from it&#8217;s foreign and domestic lenders.</p>
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		<title>by: Brad F</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-647895</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Disinter never has anything but vomit comments to say</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Disinter never has anything but vomit comments to say</p>
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		<title>by: David K. Williams, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-647784</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>disinter wrote:

&quot;Barf flip-flops to appease the gullible barfers… and the barfers fall for it.&quot;

Yep, Barr left the Republican Party so he could ride the tremendous coattails of the LP to victory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>disinter wrote:</p>
	<p>&#8220;Barf flip-flops to appease the gullible barfers&#8230; and the barfers fall for it.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Yep, Barr left the Republican Party so he could ride the tremendous coattails of the LP to victory!</p>
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		<title>by: NateF.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bob Barr is the real world version of Ron Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bob Barr is the real world version of Ron Paul.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-647614</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Barf flip-flops to appease the gullible barfers... and the barfers fall for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Barf flip-flops to appease the gullible barfers&#8230; and the barfers fall for it.</p>
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		<title>by: David Tomlin</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/06/13/comparing-ron-paul-and-bob-barr-on-the-crucial-issues-of-the-day/#comment-647554</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Non-interventionism

Bob Barr on Glen Beck, June 6, 2008

We need to be downsizing significantly. Does that mean pulling every U.S. armed forces personnel from everywhere in the world immediately? Absolutely not. We have to maintain a presence sufficient to defend our country and to defend our interests.

Iraq

Bob Barr on Night Talk Bloomberg Channel, June 9, 2008

Q: Would you get the troops out of there immediately, or close to it?

Barr: Close to it. I think it would be irresponsible to telegraph to our adversaries exactly when and how we would withdraw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Non-interventionism</p>
	<p>Bob Barr on Glen Beck, June 6, 2008</p>
	<p>We need to be downsizing significantly. Does that mean pulling every U.S. armed forces personnel from everywhere in the world immediately? Absolutely not. We have to maintain a presence sufficient to defend our country and to defend our interests.</p>
	<p>Iraq</p>
	<p>Bob Barr on Night Talk Bloomberg Channel, June 9, 2008</p>
	<p>Q: Would you get the troops out of there immediately, or close to it?</p>
	<p>Barr: Close to it. I think it would be irresponsible to telegraph to our adversaries exactly when and how we would withdraw.</p>
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		<title>by: Ron Moss</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A deal is a deal. When our forefathers set up their agent government to represent their common interests, and called it the constitution. they limited that agent with certain restrictions, called the &quot;BIll of Rights&quot;. That Bill as the &quot;Deal&quot; was made in good faith. Ron Paul just wants to hold them to it. That was the deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A deal is a deal. When our forefathers set up their agent government to represent their common interests, and called it the constitution. they limited that agent with certain restrictions, called the &#8220;BIll of Rights&#8221;. That Bill as the &#8220;Deal&#8221; was made in good faith. Ron Paul just wants to hold them to it. That was the deal.</p>
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		<title>by: Chuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Barr is right on except for the Fair Tax, but I think he is rethinking that and rightfully back pedaling.  He is absolutely right that the more important thing is to cut spending, and the method of taxation is secondary.  Ron Paul's &quot;replace it with nothing&quot; is nice and all, but people justifiably question that since it is not realistic to achieve even in an 8 year two-term cycle.  I'm happy with Barr's softening of the rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Barr is right on except for the Fair Tax, but I think he is rethinking that and rightfully back pedaling.  He is absolutely right that the more important thing is to cut spending, and the method of taxation is secondary.  Ron Paul&#8217;s &#8220;replace it with nothing&#8221; is nice and all, but people justifiably question that since it is not realistic to achieve even in an 8 year two-term cycle.  I&#8217;m happy with Barr&#8217;s softening of the rhetoric.</p>
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