Ron Paul supporters plan Bob Barr money bomb
Liberty Maven likes the site for the Bob Barr Money Bomb: “There have been other efforts for something like this for Barr, but this one is the real deal. I really like the web site designed for this one. More so than any of the others even those for Ron Paul.”
The site’s URL is www.BarrBomb.com. The date for the Money Bomb is July 2.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:50 am
It is a very nice site indeed. They have more time and experience to prepare a professional site. Hope the money bombs will be effective. Barr does not have much time and perhaps they need several money bombs in succession, like every two weeks or so. There should be fundraising in between also, so that not all wait till the money bomb.
Here is a nice heading about the Paul announcement:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-ronpaul13-2008jun13,0,6728567.story
June 13th, 2008 at 9:10 am
What is with Barr and Root’s obsession with Reagan? Reagan shouldn’t be on his money bomb site. Reagan was everything the LP isn’t.
I still don’t understand Libertarian’s obsession with Rand either. She blasted and criticized Nolan and the LP on numerous occasions. She loathed the LP.
Other than that, it is a decent site.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:41 am
There’s at least one more guy on the page who doesn’t belong- unless they want a picture of every failed Ron Paul Republican and frequent libertarian candidate.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:06 am
I’m curious about whose site that is. It says “This site is not endorsed or affiliated with the Bob Barr 2008 Campaign” at the bottom, which tells us who is not running it, but the domain is registered via a proxy registrant service to keep the owner anonymous.
http://whois.domaintools.com/barrbomb.com
DrG.,
Well, we finally agree on something – how nice
I don’t understand the Reagan fetish either, but to be fair, this site is ostensibly a supporter’s site, not Barr/Root themselves. I’ve found a huge range of opinion about Rand within the Party. I know that Barr tends to drop her name a lot, and frankly it sounds like name-dropping, and rather amateurish name-dropping at that. He may as well run around waving a copy of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or any album by Rush. Probably nearly as many people were introduced to libertarianism by those works of fiction as by anything Rand wrote, but they were just that: introductional works of fiction. Not evidence of deep analytical thinking.
Though I will say that Rand beats hell out Heinlein in the sex scene department. For a guy as Oedipal as RAH seemed to be, he sure didn’t seem to like to write about sex.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Susan,
A man can love his mother without having to strump her.
Heinlein could stimulate more aesthetic sexuality in a young man with just a few insightful references to tenderness and the honorable exercise of power than Rand ever could in five pages of excruciating detail indulging a hot flash.
Heinlein understood something Rand didn’t, and apparently yourself, don’t: the male sexual response. Think of it this way: by the time you’ve finished your preliminary inference of our financial status by glancing at our clothes, we’ve already discerned just from your scent and demeanor whether you are a suitable mate.
(True, many guys proceed despite knowing better, but desperation does seem to be a predictable situation in a world of illusion and destroyed expectations of loyalty.)
0June 13th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Heinlein could stimulate more aesthetic sexuality in a young man with just a few insightful references to tenderness and the honorable exercise of power than Rand ever could in five pages of excruciating detail indulging a hot flash.
Well, I can see where that would be so. But of course I could never speak from the perspective of a ‘young man’.
I wasn’t really criticizing Heinlein; just pointing out a stylistic difference and suggesting that if something more than implied sex was your thing, Rand is probably preferable to Heinlein in that department. She also beats him in the delivery of manifesto speeches department, though only by a nose
Heinlein understood something Rand didn’t, and apparently yourself, don’t: the male sexual response. Think of it this way: by the time you’ve finished your preliminary inference of our financial status by glancing at our clothes, we’ve already discerned just from your scent and demeanor whether you are a suitable mate.
Do you really think the same thing doesn’t apply to the ‘female sexual response’? Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you’ve written here, but I am sensing some hostility (or at the very least condescension) toward women from you.
June 13th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you’ve written here, but I am sensing some hostility (or at the very least condescension) toward women from you.
Not that at all. More that I am acutely aware of the differences between men and women (and among each sex). If I have a gripe it’s that too many women (not that men are more bright) expect men to meet standards based on female sexuality and make no effort to understand men. I didn’t find Rand particularly sensitive to men, but then she treated almost everyone like objects anyway.
All that into account, there is a problem with painted women who wear body enhancement devices to entice but then don’t follow up on the implied promise to be whatever the guy wants.
Both directions, more honesty would go a long way.
0June 13th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Their lame attempt to associate a respectable, principled man like Ron Paul with barf is pathetic. What an insult to Ron Paul.
Bob Barf is the antithesis to Ron Paul.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Donate here:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
June 13th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I’m curious about whose site that is. It says “This site is not endorsed or affiliated with the Bob Barr 2008 Campaign
Susan,
You bring up a good point. I would recommend nobody donates money to that site. It is more than likely a scam site. The registration info should not be private. Probably best to go through Barr’s regular site.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
TPW should probably also remove that site if it is not endorsed by Barr.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Hmm, good idea.
June 13th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Paranoia! Paranoia! Paranoia!
Sorry, if you don’t know the song.
DrGonzo: Bar can’t endorse the site wthout making it a coordinated contribution and expenditure. Ron Paul never coordinated with the money bomb originators, and neither will Barr/Root.
There is no reason to believe the site is a scam. It asks only for pledges, doesn’t accept donations, and points donors to the official Barr donation page. (Just like you wanted; did you miss that?)
It’s no different than any of the previous moneybomb sites.
Relax.
0June 13th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
disentery,
When Ron Paul has spoken very favorably of Bob Barr and praised his progress as a libertarian, who are you to say Barr is the antithesis of and an insult to Ron Paul?
0June 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Allen,
Actually it isn’t paranoia. Scam sites are very common around campaign time. If you want to donate money on a site not affiliated or endorsed by the Barr campaign go ahead. Any supposed official money bomb site should not be using Domains by proxy as the registration.
It is much wiser to donate your money through Barr’s official campaign page.
June 13th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
After reading the rest of your post, you are correct. I thought hte site took donations and not only pledges.
Its good to be safe during campaign time. There are dozens of scam donation sites setup.
June 13th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Thanks to Allen Hacker for the clarification that pledges, NOT donations are being taken at that site!
June 13th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
disentery,
When Ron Paul has spoken very favorably of Bob Barr and praised his progress as a libertarian, who are you to say Barr is the antithesis of and an insult to Ron Paul?
Allen Hacker must be new here…We all know that disinter(which means “to exhume”) is a negative creep who probably is in mad love with Christine Smith. Emphasis on “mad”.
June 13th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
who probably is in mad love with Christine Smith.
Well, Christine Smith is (or at least was) way hot. Never met her in person, but judging by some of the campaign photos.. hubba, hubba. She’s pretty damn cute.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Here’s a money bomb I can support:
http://www.freedomslate08.com/
June 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
So Hacker the scam artist crawls out of his hole to defend barf. No surprise there.
Earth to Hacker:
Barf voted FOR the patriot act, FOR illegal wars of aggression, AGAINST freedom of religion, worked FOR the CIA for nearly 10 years (probably still does) and was a drug war prosecutor.
Barf is the complete antithesis to everything Ron Paul stands for. What barf says and what he does are two completely different things.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
I think she is butt-ugly myself. But then again I am gay.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
So…
[Barr] voted FOR…
And you crapped your drawers. When you were a kid, or still?
I think she is butt-ugly myself.
There’s just no accounting for taste.
But then again I am gay.
Yet, not happy.
BTW to Shane Savoie,
No, you’d be relatively new here. ‘disinter’ is actually Mike Nelson, embarrassment of Texas Libertarians, affronteur to Ron Paul and saboteur of the LP and its campaigns, scourge of honest producers the world over, a pox on the ass of humanity. Ergo, disentery, en symptome flagrante.
0June 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Hacker, aren’t you the one that is so nutty the Scientologists wouldn’t even take you?
June 13th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Hey Hack-tard…. how much money did you steal from the Badnarik campaign again?
June 13th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
diahrrea,
Lies, negativity, destruction, temper tantrums, sabotage… everybody but you sees you for what you are.
Even the trolls dislike you.
0June 13th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Heinlein had some weird ideas about sex, but at least he had a heart. Rand had hers surgically removed and replaced with a cubic zirconia. Her ideas on sex and family were quite unpleasant.
“Moon is a Harsh Mistress” turned me into an anarchist back in high school. Then, I began to appreciate the weakness of certain anarchist arguments when taking them into the field.
Interestingly, “Moon is a Harsh Mistress” ends with anarchy giving way to democracy. Heinlein appreciated the instability of anarchy even as he toyed with the idea. Heinlein was much more data driven than Rand or Rothbard.
June 13th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
To all:
First off I want to thank those who viewed my site (and the complements on its design). I am trying to get the word out to as many people as possible that the Revolution can continue! TPW is one of my favorite sites and I am honored that TPW has been covering my site.
To clarify what has been said above: I do not take donations, only pledges. I turn people to the actual Barr site for the donations. I agree that everyone should be wary for scams in this day and age. As for trying to keep the owner anonymous, my private info is just that: private. I try to respect everyone’s privacy (even yours Susan) and only ask in return that I am given the same courtesy.
I am collecting the pledges so when I gather a few more days of stats I can put up stats/graph of the pledges I have received. I hope to continue to spread the word about Bob Barr and BarrBomb.com, and would much appreciate any help you all can offer.
-Mitchell
June 14th, 2008 at 3:53 am
Carl,
Good point.
It broke down for me when I realized that every great “libertarian” anarchist novel suffered the same fatal defect: each requires a suspension of reality in order to work. In other words, it only works in those stories because it’s science fiction. Atlas Shrugged’s free energy device and the ability to project a holographic mountain peak of Galtville (wouldn’t fool any sattelite up there); Voyage to yesteryear’s dna-cloning automated space colony transport; and so on.
But you don’t get to suspend reality out there on Main Street.
Anarchy doesn’t work for the same reason democracy doesn’t: both eventuate to the relentless pursuit of mediocrity; democracy searching for the lowest common denominator in performance, anarchy finding the lowest common denominator in social behavior.
0June 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
“Ron Paul supporters plan Bob Barr money bomb” = Disappointment on multiple different levels.