= Good for you, I guess.

I am thinking about auditioning as a Vikings cheerleader this fall, though. Those girls are all so talented and beautiful! It would truly be an honor to among their number.

= Ok.

However, I hope to get a job in advertising or public relations soon. If the real estate market picks up again, I want to sell houses.

= The AIP State Chair (Jim King) does that. If you wanted to talk to him for advice, his contact info is on the new AIP website, which is going to be in my upcoming post.

I think it would be a real thrill to help peoples’ dreams of home owneship come true.

= We’re going through dark times in the housing market currently. That’s why we’re renting & saving up money.

However, I hope to get a job in advertising or public relations soon. If the real estate market picks up again, I want to sell houses. I think it would be a real thrill to help peoples’ dreams of home owneship come true.

= You’d better take that up with the Founding Fathers. Because they still included God in some parts.

How do you explain the phrase “In the Year of Our Lord” in the US Constitution?

= As this comments have demonstrated, the so-called Libertarians and CP critics do not understand its Platform and its history. They also do not understand how prejudiced they are in their views of religion and even don’t quite understand the Constitution either, especially the 10th Amendment.

That fundamental distinction is at the core of liberty, and the CP’s ignorance of it (or outright rejection of it, I’m not quite sure which) should be more than enough to cost them the vote of any one who claims to love liberty

= Of those voters that want to legalize Prostitution, porn, every controlled substance and also approve NAFTA and other ‘Free Trade Agreements’ that destroy the American workforce.
I also don’t think Liberty lovers would vote for a Party whose members flaunt their anti-christian and anti-religious views here.

of the sort the actual Constitution is supposed to protect.

= Like the rights of the states to decide on matters not given to the federal and not prohibited from the states.

= LOL! Nope, I had help from no one! Heck if Gary wrote this, I’d give the credit to him.

Anyone who spells ‘definitely’ at least three different ways does not have the education necessary to do this legal research.

= Anyone who claims the CP National Convention was going to be in California doesn’t have the education to speak about the Party.

Mr. Quirk is no paralegal, and never even completed junior college.

= Miss. Sorenson is no political expert and probably isn’t in college. Can Miss. Sorenson tell me in what election was a political pin the shape of a gold bug worn? Does she know?

Perhaps not even his freshman year. He was likely supplied with his information from a ghost-writer.

= Which was my brain! Ooooooooooooooo!

It is my understanding that Mr. Quirk makes his living as a laborer, but fancies himself a skilled amateur political analyst.

= It is my understanding that Mrs. Sorenson does cheerleading for a living and yet claims to know the inner workings of the Constitution Party.

It also smacks of the arguments Gary Odom, at the behest of his employers at the national Constitution Party, has been using ever since Mr. Noonan proclaimed that he was going to disaffiliate the AIPCA from the Constitution Party and give Keyes its ballot line.

= No, it smacks of personal resentment that has been building up since Ed’s appointment of D. Clark.

While I do not claim to be an expert of California Election Code, it does appear that both factions have strong claims to control of the AIPCA and its ballot line.

= Not Ed’s side. For one, the State Convention doesn’t have to be in Sacramento. And two, Mr. Seidenburg lied about the attendence. And Ed thinks that one must be elected as a county chair in order to be on the committee, and he also thinks that the Chairman can solely kick people out of the state committee at will. Nowhere is that in the Elections Code.

Neither side has iron-clad definitive proof that they are the rightful leadership of the AIPCA.

= Read the Elections Code, oh, wait, you’re a Cheerleader.

Past precedence being the case, Mr. Noonan will likely succeed at his objective of keeping Mr. Baldwin off the California 2008 Presidential ballot and the King group will be awarded ownership after the November elections.

= I know you wish that, but it probably isn’t going to happen.

It appears obvious to those of us without a direct stake in the AIPCA’s ballot line that this will not be sorted out in days or weeks, but rather in months or years.

=Years? LOL!

It has already been weeks and there appears to be no resolution in sight.

= For one, the California SoS won’t give Ed his recognition on a silver platter.

Both sides have strong arguments for control of the AIPCA, and the CA SoS office has more important things to worry about right now than the ownership of a dying minor party.

= However I don’t see a Ed winning in the long run.

Ed Noonan is a fool, but any one that didn’t see this one coming should have their head examined.

= I don’t remember you predicting exactely this either.

Ed Noonan has a long history of selective listening/reading, imagined persecution, patting himself on the back for the smallest of achievements, and throwing temper tantrums when he doesn’t get his way.

= Such behavior didn’t become apparent until Gilchrist endorsed Art Oliver over him.

This goes back to at least 2003, if not before. Mr. Noonan is a caricature of Constitution Party leadership in general.

= He is now.

Dr. Grundmann, your claims of the GOP trying to kill the CP may be true, but the CP crippled itself badly enough in 1999 and 2006 that the GOP is merely performing a coup de grace similar to shooting a rabid dog or a terminally ill beloved pet.

= Tampa doesn’t count, those states got replaced and the other two are putting Chuck on their ballot.

Besides, if they really wanted to kill the Constiution Party they would have promptly challenged the CPIL’s ballot access petitions as they weren’t even close to gathering the necessary 25,000 legitimate signatures.

= Guess the Almighty had a hand in doing that.

I don’t have the exact number of signatures gathered in Illinois by the CPIL, but I think they got less than 25% of the necessary signatures. Does anyone have the exact number of signatures the CPIL turned in?

= Ask somebody with the CPIL. Even if they didn’t get 25%, to get on the ballot in a state like that is quite a breakthrough.

I think any logical person realizes that Gary Odom did the research and Cody did the attack piece. Anyone who spells ‘definitely’ at least three different ways does not have the education necessary to do this legal research. Mr. Quirk is no paralegal, and never even completed junior college. Perhaps not even his freshman year. He was likely supplied with his information from a ghost-writer. It is my understanding that Mr. Quirk makes his living as a laborer, but fancies himself a skilled amateur political analyst.

It also smacks of the arguments Gary Odom, at the behest of his employers at the national Constitution Party, has been using ever since Mr. Noonan proclaimed that he was going to disaffiliate the AIPCA from the Constitution Party and give Keyes its ballot line.

While I do not claim to be an expert of California Election Code, it does appear that both factions have strong claims to control of the AIPCA and its ballot line. Neither side has iron-clad definitive proof that they are the rightful leadership of the AIPCA. Past precedence being the case, Mr. Noonan will likely succeed at his objective of keeping Mr. Baldwin off the California 2008 Presidential ballot and the King group will be awarded ownership after the November elections.

It appears obvious to those of us without a direct stake in the AIPCA’s ballot line that this will not be sorted out in days or weeks, but rather in months or years. It has already been weeks and there appears to be no resolution in sight. Both sides have strong arguments for control of the AIPCA, and the CA SoS office has more important things to worry about right now than the ownership of a dying minor party.

Ed Noonan is a fool, but any one that didn’t see this one coming should have their head examined. Ed Noonan has a long history of selective listening/reading, imagined persecution, patting himself on the back for the smallest of achievements, and throwing temper tantrums when he doesn’t get his way. This goes back to at least 2003, if not before. Mr. Noonan is a caricature of Constitution Party leadership in general.

Dr. Grundmann, your claims of the GOP trying to kill the CP may be true, but the CP crippled itself badly enough in 1999 and 2006 that the GOP is merely performing a coup de grace similar to shooting a rabid dog or a terminally ill beloved pet.

Besides, if they really wanted to kill the Constiution Party they would have promptly challenged the CPIL’s ballot access petitions as they weren’t even close to gathering the necessary 25,000 legitimate signatures. I don’t have the exact number of signatures gathered in Illinois by the CPIL, but I think they got less than 25% of the necessary signatures. Does anyone have the exact number of signatures the CPIL turned in?

Sean : The minimal objective which will satisfy the rump faction attempting to to steal the AIP for Keyes is that Chuck Baldwin is knocked off of the ballot. As long as this occurs the past chairman, Ed Noonan, will be satisfied for the revenge he gains against Chuck Baldwin against whom he has a foaming-at-the-mouth hatred. The past parlimentarian, Mark Robinson, is a GOP mole who, having reached a appropriate position of power within the party, has executed the plan which he had upon his original entry into the party inclusive of the Constitution Party as a whole as the primary target – its destruction and elimination as the true conservative threat to the fake conservatism of the Republican Party.

A purely secualr government can never exist; i.e.; it is impossible to have; simply because all people are religious and hence ANY government will always be controlled by a religion. The question for our nation is whether that religion shall be Christianity, upon which our nation was founded and upon which its prosperity and the freedom of our citizens is based, or its anti-Christian opposite; which will bring ruin and poverty to our citizens, the nation, and the world as a whole.

Keyes supporters have to look towards the future instead nursing the grievences of the present. Do you honestly believe that the ideas of Alan Keyes alone are enough to sustain a nationwide non-major party and if so what makes Alan so special? Is he a philospher? Religious leader? Saint? World traveler? What does he say that isn’t said by hundreds if not thousands of conservatives everyday of the week? And you also have to ask yourself do you have differences with the CP platform and candidate Chuckl Baldwin that are significant enough not only keeps you from supporting him, but also keeps you from the CP itself?

Even you gain control of the California AIP in court what would that gain you? Don’t you think the CP wouldn’t just start a chapter in California? Then what? You live out your existence as the Alan Keyes Party and Keyes finally passes from the scene, then what? What will would have gained? Existence as another petty faction of non-major party politics? Is that what your work is going towards? Are your differences with the CP that significant?

Like it or not the CP, along with the Greens and the LP, have set themselves apart from the rest of the non-major parties because they have national organization, structure and funding. They have dedicated activists and active candidates. Now you can either accept this fact, or waste your time for the next 10-12 years, it’s up to you. That’s the choice you face.

Bob Barr receives the support of 7% of voters who identify themselves as conservative or very conservative voters. Barr gets 43% of libertarians and 11% of independents.

Indeed- because they falsely insist that the document doesn’t establish a secular government, and that the people who wrote it didn’t intend to establish a purely secular government.