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	<title>Comments on: LP activist: &#8216;We&#8217;re not all computer programmers anymore&#8217;</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/</link>
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		<title>by: The Company Barr Keeps</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-696413</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, the fact that Hacker — the $459,000 man — is supporting Bob Barr pretty much says all I need to know about the LP's ticket in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, the fact that Hacker &#8212; the $459,000 man &#8212; is supporting Bob Barr pretty much says all I need to know about the LP&#8217;s ticket in 2008.</p>
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		<title>by: darolew</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695909</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695909</guid>
					<description>The above comment was intended as a reply to this:

&quot;I guess that explains why he has been listed on the Advocates for Self-Government List of “Celebrity Libertarians” for the past 8 years&quot;

...but I think I accidentally deleted it or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The above comment was intended as a reply to this:</p>
	<p>&#8220;I guess that explains why he has been listed on the Advocates for Self-Government List of &#8220;Celebrity Libertarians&#8221; for the past 8 years&#8221;</p>
	<p>...but I think I accidentally deleted it or something.</p>
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		<title>by: darolew</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695903</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695903</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

What? That simply isn't true. To this day, Root is listed under the &quot;Friends of Libertarianism&quot; section (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). To quote: &lt;i&gt;&quot;(Celebrities who have not publicly declared themselves libertarian, but who have said good things about libertarians or libertarianism.)&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This isn't really accurate, seeing as Root started calling himself a Libertarian a while back, so perhaps The Advocates just can't bring themselves to call him a Libertarian, eh?</description>
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	<p>What? That simply isn&#8217;t true. To this day, Root is listed under the &#8220;Friends of Libertarianism&#8221; section (see <a href="http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>). To quote: <i>&#8220;(Celebrities who have not publicly declared themselves libertarian, but who have said good things about libertarians or libertarianism.)&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>This isn&#8217;t really accurate, seeing as Root started calling himself a Libertarian a while back, so perhaps The Advocates just can&#8217;t bring themselves to call him a Libertarian, eh?</p>
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		<title>by: Is America Ready for a Third Party President?</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695632</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695632</guid>
					<description>Great article on the media and its involvement in this whole mess...
http://www.digitalsyndicate.net/Is%20American%20Ready%20for%20a%20Third%20Party%20President.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Great article on the media and its involvement in this whole mess&#8230;<br />
<a href='http://www.digitalsyndicate.net/Is%20American%20Ready%20for%20a%20Third%20Party%20President.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.digitalsyndicate.net/Is%20American%20Ready%20for%20a%20Third%20Party%20President.html</a></p>
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		<title>by: Clark</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695184</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-695184</guid>
					<description>...these stooooooooopid fucking republicrats yacking about barf's (phony) 'high' poll numbers in fucking july are so fucking naive it makes me sick...(please don't tell people you're a 'libertarian,' you chowderheads!)

...and can anyone even imagine how many people dunder0-head has poisoned as to 'libertarianism'...imagine this stoooooooopid and/or evil fuck 'collecting signatures' and skunk-pissing on 'Libertarianism' day after fucking day!..

...and don't any of you gd republicrat fools find it odd that with all the decent, knowledgeable, etc. people who call themselves 'libertarian'..the ones who tend to get most/all 'the press' (lately..we were almost totally ignored prior) tend to be the worst fucking idiot republicrats among us?

..tell me sabotage isn't rife in 'the LP inc.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>...these stooooooooopid fucking republicrats yacking about barf&#8217;s (phony) &#8216;high&#8217; poll numbers in fucking july are so fucking naive it makes me sick&#8230;(please don&#8217;t tell people you&#8217;re a &#8216;libertarian,&#8217; you chowderheads!)</p>
	<p>...and can anyone even imagine how many people dunder0-head has poisoned as to &#8216;libertarianism&#8217;...imagine this stoooooooopid and/or evil fuck &#8216;collecting signatures&#8217; and skunk-pissing on &#8216;Libertarianism&#8217; day after fucking day!..</p>
	<p>...and don&#8217;t any of you gd republicrat fools find it odd that with all the decent, knowledgeable, etc. people who call themselves &#8216;libertarian&#8217;..the ones who tend to get most/all &#8216;the press&#8217; (lately..we were almost totally ignored prior) tend to be the worst fucking idiot republicrats among us?</p>
	<p>..tell me sabotage isn&#8217;t rife in &#8216;the LP inc.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>by: John C. Jackson</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694233</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694233</guid>
					<description>I thought it was more like &quot; We aren't all UNEMPLOYED computer programmers anymore.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought it was more like &#8221; We aren&#8217;t all <span class="caps">UNEMPLOYED</span> computer programmers anymore.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>by: Thomas M. Sipos</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694204</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694204</guid>
					<description>Dondero, I forget how many Libertarians you've smeared over the years as being appeasing, American-hating, Leftists, simply because they opposed US interventions and foreign wars.

Ruwart, Paul, Kwiatkowski, Browne, Badnarik, others? You've smeared so many Libertarians as &quot;Leftists.&quot;

The fact that these Libertarians had a &lt;i&gt;lot more&lt;/i&gt; cred than a tiny &quot;blurb in LP News&quot; and being one of many names listed at Advocates for Self-Government didn't prevent you from calling them &quot;Leftists&quot; and worse.

Yet we're supposed to overlook Root's &lt;i&gt;very recent&lt;/i&gt; endorsement of McCain/Lieberman, his &lt;i&gt;Republican Millionaire&lt;/i&gt; book, his embrace of the conservative label on talk radio, simply because LP News blurbed him once.

Do I sense a double standard?  A simple blurb and listing makes Root a &quot;longtime Libertarian,&quot; whereas decades-long LP activism doesn't make one a true Libertarian if one opposes US foreign wars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dondero, I forget how many Libertarians you&#8217;ve smeared over the years as being appeasing, American-hating, Leftists, simply because they opposed US interventions and foreign wars.</p>
	<p>Ruwart, Paul, Kwiatkowski, Browne, Badnarik, others? You&#8217;ve smeared so many Libertarians as &#8220;Leftists.&#8221;</p>
	<p>The fact that these Libertarians had a <i>lot more</i> cred than a tiny &#8220;blurb in <span class="caps">LP </span>News&#8221; and being one of many names listed at Advocates for Self-Government didn&#8217;t prevent you from calling them &#8220;Leftists&#8221; and worse.</p>
	<p>Yet we&#8217;re supposed to overlook Root&#8217;s <i>very recent</i> endorsement of McCain/Lieberman, his <i>Republican Millionaire</i> book, his embrace of the conservative label on talk radio, simply because <span class="caps">LP </span>News blurbed him once.</p>
	<p>Do I sense a double standard?  A simple blurb and listing makes Root a &#8220;longtime Libertarian,&#8221; whereas decades-long LP activism doesn&#8217;t make one a true Libertarian if one opposes US foreign wars?</p>
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		<title>by: Lance Brown</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694203</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694203</guid>
					<description>If Root can't or won't contribute bucks (and let's not forget that Bob Barr probably has a pretty healthy bank account too), then he should at least be able to connect with some celebrities. Phil Gordon has connected with a huge array of celebrities, and Wayne should be able to get an audience with them. And if he's half the hot shit he claims to be, he should be able to get a stage full of celebrity endorsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If Root can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t contribute bucks (and let&#8217;s not forget that Bob Barr probably has a pretty healthy bank account too), then he should at least be able to connect with some celebrities. Phil Gordon has connected with a huge array of celebrities, and Wayne should be able to get an audience with them. And if he&#8217;s half the hot shit he claims to be, he should be able to get a stage full of celebrity endorsers.</p>
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		<title>by: Cork</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694064</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-694064</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Root should come out boldly and clearly to show his money is where his mouth is and contribute at least 100 k of his own money&lt;/i&gt;

Not only that, he should get started on that libertarian reality series he claimed he would get on the air (fat chance!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Root should come out boldly and clearly to show his money is where his mouth is and contribute at least 100 k of his own money</i></p>
	<p>Not only that, he should get started on that libertarian reality series he claimed he would get on the air (fat chance!).</p>
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		<title>by: Craig</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693995</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You would think that Libertarians would be better versed in history, especially their own....  but many seem to forget that Michael Badnarik, a computer programmer by trade, was polling at 5% in New Mexico after concentrating on that state, until the major party candidates swamped it with visits, advertising, and free media -- just like they will do with Barr. 

And Alan Hacker wasn't making fun of computer programmers in 2006, when he managed Badnarik's promising Congressional campaign in Texas to a disappointing 4% finish after squandering his early fundraising success ($400K plus) on just about everything except voter outreach or advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You would think that Libertarians would be better versed in history, especially their own&#8230;.  but many seem to forget that Michael Badnarik, a computer programmer by trade, was polling at 5% in New Mexico after concentrating on that state, until the major party candidates swamped it with visits, advertising, and free media&#8212;just like they will do with Barr.</p>
	<p>And Alan Hacker wasn&#8217;t making fun of computer programmers in 2006, when he managed Badnarik&#8217;s promising Congressional campaign in Texas to a disappointing 4% finish after squandering his early fundraising success ($400K plus) on just about everything except voter outreach or advertising.</p>
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		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693890</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693890</guid>
					<description>Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] Says:
July 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

Michael Seebeck: Quit buying your Romanian built spell checkers at the swap meet! ——-Don ‘Not a Libertarian’ Lake

LOL!  Sorry, Don, that was no spell checker mistake, just bad proofreading. It happens.

Hey, Thomas, if the LP Chair works for the state chairs, then let's have the state chairs be the exclusive electors of the LP Chair.  (I'm not being sarcastic here, I really think it's a reasonable idea!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] Says:<br />
July 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pm</p>
	<p>Michael Seebeck: Quit buying your Romanian built spell checkers at the swap meet! &#8212;&#8212;-Don &#8216;Not a Libertarian&#8217; Lake</p>
	<p><span class="caps">LOL</span>!  Sorry, Don, that was no spell checker mistake, just bad proofreading. It happens.</p>
	<p>Hey, Thomas, if the <span class="caps">LP </span>Chair works for the state chairs, then let&#8217;s have the state chairs be the exclusive electors of the <span class="caps">LP </span>Chair.  (I&#8217;m not being sarcastic here, I really think it&#8217;s a reasonable idea!)</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693844</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693844</guid>
					<description>Yup, Root is a &quot;newly converted Libertarian&quot; alright.  I guess that explains why he has been listed on the Advocates for Self-Government List of &quot;Celebrity Libertarians&quot; for the past 8 years, and why LP News ran a blurb about him being a &quot;libertarian&quot; as far back as the late 1990s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yup, Root is a &#8220;newly converted Libertarian&#8221; alright.  I guess that explains why he has been listed on the Advocates for Self-Government List of &#8220;Celebrity Libertarians&#8221; for the past 8 years, and why <span class="caps">LP </span>News ran a blurb about him being a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; as far back as the late 1990s.</p>
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		<title>by: Rudi Dekkers</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693635</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693635</guid>
					<description>Stefan said: &quot;Root should come out boldly and clearly to show his money is where his mouth is and contribute at least 100 k of his own money&quot;

Sorry Stefan, didn't you hear?  W.A.R. and Barr are newly converted Libertarians.  This means that they now understand the libertarian/conservative principle that a criminal has a PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to his victims. Hence, the first claimants on W.A.R.'s scamdicapper millions are the Iraq War survivors and refugees who were the victims of W.A.R.'s surging support for war prior to W.A.R.'s Libertarian conversion.

And if there is anything left to W.A.R.'s estate after he pays for his responsibility to Iraq war victims, I would certainly vote to attach it as compensation for damages to Agent Barr's drug war victims if I was on a civil jury.

For fundraising, it looks like the LP will have to stick to libertarian saints with no blood on their hands, or maybe some unrepentant authoritarian sinners will throw them some money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Stefan said: &#8220;Root should come out boldly and clearly to show his money is where his mouth is and contribute at least 100 k of his own money&#8221;</p>
	<p>Sorry Stefan, didn&#8217;t you hear?  W.A.R. and Barr are newly converted Libertarians.  This means that they now understand the libertarian/conservative principle that a criminal has a <span class="caps">PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY</span> to his victims. Hence, the first claimants on W.A.R.&#8217;s scamdicapper millions are the Iraq War survivors and refugees who were the victims of W.A.R.&#8217;s surging support for war prior to W.A.R.&#8217;s Libertarian conversion.</p>
	<p>And if there is anything left to W.A.R.&#8217;s estate after he pays for his responsibility to Iraq war victims, I would certainly vote to attach it as compensation for damages to Agent Barr&#8217;s drug war victims if I was on a civil jury.</p>
	<p>For fundraising, it looks like the LP will have to stick to libertarian saints with no blood on their hands, or maybe some unrepentant authoritarian sinners will throw them some money.</p>
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		<title>by: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693604</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693604</guid>
					<description>THE BARR STORE IS OPEN.

Please buy your Barr merchandise at www.bobbarr2008.com  a portion of the money will go to fund the campaign. We need to make Barr's name visible, place your bumper stickers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">THE BARR STORE IS OPEN</span>.</p>
	<p>Please buy your Barr merchandise at <a href='http://www.bobbarr2008.com' rel='nofollow'>www.bobbarr2008.com</a>  a portion of the money will go to fund the campaign. We need to make Barr&#8217;s name visible, place your bumper stickers.</p>
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		<title>by: GoNolzOhio</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693579</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/14/lp-activist-were-not-all-computer-programmers-anymore/#comment-693579</guid>
					<description>&quot;I wonder how many others were creeped out by Root’s naked ego on display?&quot;

Not me. It takes a serious ego to campaign for presidency/vice presidency. 

I really don't have a problem with people coming &quot;out of nowhere&quot; to lead this party, because our desultory performance lo' these many years really doesn't lead me to believe we'd be giving up anything  of value in the process anyway. 

In any case, David Tomlin is right. Its common knowledge that, in the American political system. the Presidential nominee of a party becomes its de facto leader. For example, at the height of Reagan's or Clinton's popularity, they obviously could have had anyone in their parties fired, up to and including the Chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I wonder how many others were creeped out by Root&#8217;s naked ego on display?&#8221;</p>
	<p>Not me. It takes a serious ego to campaign for presidency/vice presidency.</p>
	<p>I really don&#8217;t have a problem with people coming &#8220;out of nowhere&#8221; to lead this party, because our desultory performance lo&#8217; these many years really doesn&#8217;t lead me to believe we&#8217;d be giving up anything  of value in the process anyway.</p>
	<p>In any case, David Tomlin is right. Its common knowledge that, in the American political system. the Presidential nominee of a party becomes its de facto leader. For example, at the height of Reagan&#8217;s or Clinton&#8217;s popularity, they obviously could have had anyone in their parties fired, up to and including the Chair.</p>
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