Comments on: Numbers USA gives Baldwin an A+++ http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:26:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Cork http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-698811 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:47:44 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-698811 Baldwin's plans to crack down on victimless crimes and economic freedom are not something to applaud. The fence he wants to build, along with his harsh economic nationalism, will lead to a police state (one with more poverty). He probably won't even let us go on vacations. If he does, he won't allow us to trade with anyone while on vacation. That would "kill American jobs." Baldwin’s plans to crack down on victimless crimes and economic freedom are not something to applaud. The fence he wants to build, along with his harsh economic nationalism, will lead to a police state (one with more poverty). He probably won’t even let us go on vacations. If he does, he won’t allow us to trade with anyone while on vacation. That would “kill American jobs.”

]]> by: Lance Brown http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-698548 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:51:31 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-698548 Cody, you might want to check your facts. Bob Barr did not score worst on amnesty. "Abysmal" is worse than "bad". Not that I want Barr to be winning the NUMBERS USA competition or anything, but what you said isn't accurate. OK, wait, I get what you meant. You meant Barr's worst rating was on that issue, as compared to other issues. Not that he was the worst of the candidates on that issue. That wasn't clear to me at first. Maybe it's just me though. NUMBERS USA can screw off anyway. Here's hoping Barr's ratings there go down before election day. Though for what it's worth, two of his "EXCELLENT"s are actually somewhat libertarian. Most of the rest of that quiz isn't something I'd want to score well on. Cody, you might want to check your facts. Bob Barr did not score worst on amnesty. “Abysmal” is worse than “bad”.

Not that I want Barr to be winning the NUMBERS USA competition or anything, but what you said isn’t accurate.

OK, wait, I get what you meant. You meant Barr’s worst rating was on that issue, as compared to other issues. Not that he was the worst of the candidates on that issue. That wasn’t clear to me at first. Maybe it’s just me though.

NUMBERS USA can screw off anyway. Here’s hoping Barr’s ratings there go down before election day. Though for what it’s worth, two of his “EXCELLENT”s are actually somewhat libertarian. Most of the rest of that quiz isn’t something I’d want to score well on.

]]> by: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-698345 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:54:51 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-698345 Larry Breazeale, Master Sgt. (ret.) USAF: Lots and lots of reform movement types would agree with you! Larry Breazeale, Master Sgt. (ret.) USAF: Lots and lots of reform movement types would agree with you!

]]> by: MPM http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-697848 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:32:58 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-697848 "Barr has been all over the map on immigration" Yeah and now his official campaign literature says he wants to end birthright citizenship. Lame. I get the sense that, like many in the LP, he didn't care a great deal about the issue at the start of the year, and then as his campaign has developed, he and Russ Verney have been saying "we've gotta coax the 'they tuk our jerbs' conservatives!" “Barr has been all over the map on immigration”

Yeah and now his official campaign literature says he wants to end birthright citizenship. Lame. I get the sense that, like many in the LP, he didn’t care a great deal about the issue at the start of the year, and then as his campaign has developed, he and Russ Verney have been saying “we’ve gotta coax the ‘they tuk our jerbs’ conservatives!”

]]> by: Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAF http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-697655 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:46:02 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-697655 This website...NUMBERS USA, is highly respected in many "anti-illegal immigration circles", nationwide. So is F.A.I.R. , CCIR (Barbara Coe) and americanpatrol.com THESE are the biggies. THESE are the ones radio talk show hosts confer with. Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck seem to think they are too, because, even they go to these folks for 'stats' and information. Representatives from THESE groups are often invited on radio & TV shows. THAT is because THEY have credibility! THESE are the folks ANY serious-minded presidential candidate, who is serious about really securing our borders, stopping the flow of illegals, building a REAL fence, freeing the border patrol agents RAMOS & COMPEAN,stopping the North American Union scheme, stopping the NAFTA Superhighway scheme, and saying NO AMNESTY to 30 million illegal aliens (already here in our country)...would try to get in their corner. Enter CHUCK BALDWIN! This issue is ALL Chuck's for the taking! NO OTHER CANDIDATE is taking a pro-active stand to protect our borders. Not even BOB BARR...aka: "Mr. Potato Head"...aka: "OPEN BORDERS BARR". Certainly "McAmnesty McCain" will NOT! Certainly "Obamanation" will NOT! Patriot Ron Paul has been on the forefront to protect our borders too, but, now the torch has been passed on to Chuck! Go Chuck go! -Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.)USAF NVC/CP...www.nvets.org Chrm. Orange County Central Commiittee, AIP/CP, Anaheim Hills, Calif. This website…NUMBERS USA, is highly respected in many “anti-illegal immigration circles”, nationwide. So is F.A.I.R. , CCIR (Barbara Coe) and americanpatrol.com THESE are the biggies. THESE are the ones radio talk show hosts confer with. Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck seem to think they are too, because, even they go to these folks for ‘stats’ and information.
Representatives from THESE groups are often invited on radio & TV shows.
THAT is because THEY have credibility!
THESE are the folks ANY serious-minded presidential candidate, who is serious about really securing our borders, stopping the flow of illegals, building a REAL fence, freeing the border patrol agents RAMOS & COMPEAN,stopping the North American Union scheme, stopping the NAFTA Superhighway scheme, and saying NO AMNESTY to 30 million illegal aliens (already here in our country)...would try to get in their corner.
Enter CHUCK BALDWIN! This issue is ALL Chuck’s for the taking! NO OTHER CANDIDATE is taking a pro-active stand to protect our borders.
Not even BOB BARR…aka: “Mr. Potato Head”...aka: “OPEN BORDERS BARR”. Certainly “McAmnesty McCain” will NOT! Certainly “Obamanation” will NOT! Patriot Ron Paul has been on the forefront to protect our borders too, but, now the torch has been passed on to Chuck!
Go Chuck go!

-Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.)USAF
NVC/CP…www.nvets.org
Chrm. Orange County Central Commiittee,
AIP/CP, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

]]> by: Jane Seymour http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-697359 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:03:09 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-697359 Well Mike, His site isn't any more cheaply made than this site that you are using to post comments on. Cheers! Well Mike,

His site isn’t any more cheaply made than this site that you are using to post comments on.

Cheers!

]]> by: David Tomlin http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696937 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:21:13 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696937 Barr has been all over the map on immigration. He told Neal Boortz illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay if they passed a background check. He agreed with Glen Beck that any illegals detected should be deported and 'crippling fines' imposed on companies that hire them. Barr has been all over the map on immigration. He told Neal Boortz illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay if they passed a background check. He agreed with Glen Beck that any illegals detected should be deported and ‘crippling fines’ imposed on companies that hire them.

]]> by: Deran http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696904 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:30:35 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696904 I'm somewhat disturbed Ralph nader didn't do worse in this guys mind! But, the real "tell" about NumbersUSA, is on their front page. Upper right; that faceless horde of dark figures seeming to impinge on the pure white of the rest of the header. This is just the same "know nothing" jingoism that always plagues the US, and especially in toughing economic times. It's NIMBYism as national policy. "We got here first, so, you, go away." NumbersUSA really have focus grouped their message. They equate non-natives as leading to sprawl and congestion, and the absence of non-natives is equated with a really perverse and jingoistic (imho) use of the terms environmental sustainability and economic Justice. Mr. Beck appears to appropriate whatever helps his neo-Know Nothingism, from whomever, to gloss over the core of fear-mongering and nationalist chauvinism. The answers to ending mass economic migration are economic and political, and not paramilitary. I’m somewhat disturbed Ralph nader didn’t do worse in this guys mind!

But, the real “tell” about NumbersUSA, is on their front page. Upper right; that faceless horde of dark figures seeming to impinge on the pure white of the rest of the header. This is just the same “know nothing” jingoism that always plagues the US, and especially in toughing economic times.

It’s NIMBYism as national policy. “We got here first, so, you, go away.”

NumbersUSA really have focus grouped their message. They equate non-natives as leading to sprawl and congestion, and the absence of non-natives is equated with a really perverse and jingoistic (imho) use of the terms environmental sustainability and economic Justice.

Mr. Beck appears to appropriate whatever helps his neo-Know Nothingism, from whomever, to gloss over the core of fear-mongering and nationalist chauvinism.

The answers to ending mass economic migration are economic and political, and not paramilitary.

]]> by: Mike http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696846 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:18:11 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696846 Too bad this thing is an opinion created by one guy. Who gives a flying fuck what the guy has to say?? Look how cheaply made his website is anyways. Too bad this thing is an opinion created by one guy. Who gives a flying fuck what the guy has to say?? Look how cheaply made his website is anyways.

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696707 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:17:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696707 Too bad Chuck beats out the LP candidate that's supposedly "tough" on immigration. Too bad Chuck beats out the LP candidate that’s supposedly “tough” on immigration.

]]> by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696692 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:53:30 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696692 You got that right, Alex. How embarrassing to have the *LP* candidate score so well on an anti-immigration test. You got that right, Alex. How embarrassing to have the LP candidate score so well on an anti-immigration test.

]]> by: Alex Peak http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696678 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:38:09 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/15/numbers-usa-gives-baldwin-an-a/#comment-696678 That link makes Obama look good. I don't like that link. I want <i>us</i> to look good. Well, at least we don't look as bad as Mr. Baldwin. But still. That link makes Obama look good.

I don’t like that link. I want us to look good.

Well, at least we don’t look as bad as Mr. Baldwin. But still.

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