Statement from Jim King, AIP Chairman

Jim King

All:

In June, we held a legally called party convention, where we reaffirmed our party affiliation with the Constitution Party, and confirmed the nomination of Chuck Baldwin as candidate for our party in the Presidential election this coming November.

News, rumors and speculation that we failed in this effort are grossly premature. The Secretary of State’s comments may, offhand, appear to be ruling not in our favor in this issue. What many do not realize, is that cases of this type are not debated in their office, but rather in the California Superior Court. The Secretary of State’s office regularly looks to the Sacramento Superior Court for clarification in matters of this type. This is nothing new, it is standard operating procedure. From the very beginning, we knew this was the likely course of events, and have prepared for such in our planning.

The Secretary of State’s office and the people working there are not our enemies, in fact they are our friends! We have had a great working relationship with them for many, many years. When we contacted the Secretary of State’s office we were cordially and immediately connected with the attorney in charge and he was happy to explain in detail what we need to do in our next steps to finally resolve this issue.

I am greatly appreciative of the support of the vast majority of the active members of our party, who have faithfully come to our aid. We will continue in protecting constitutional values, as has been our mission over the last 40 years. Stay firm in your passion and commitment to our party!

-Jim King,

Chairman Elect

24 Responses to “Statement from Jim King, AIP Chairman”

  1. Red Phillips Says:

    Let’s hope the courts get it right and save the CP from the rump war-monger faction.

  2. iam4Freedom Says:

    Am I the only one getting tired of the dishonesty of the Constitution Party leadership? Time and time they have said to supporters that “all is well…just keep sending money”. And time after time we find our trust misplaced.

    I can no longer support the CP. I am switching my support to the Libertarian Party and voting for Bob Barr

  3. RRHeustisJr Says:

    A well-thought-out statement. Sounds reasonable to me.

    Simply because the SOS makes a decision does not mean that the decision is final.

    On the other hand, simply because certain leaders have a “good working relationship” with the SOS office does not mean that they will emerge victorious in the courts.

    Nevertheless, as I said in an earlier post, these unfolding events will be interesting to watch.

  4. Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] Says:

    iam4Freedom: Mister Master Sgt Know It All and Cody Text Thief would lie to you? Also be aware that things in the veterans care arena are absolutely dandy!

    How do I know? Jim King and Kool Aide bunch, er, ah, Clue Less group told me so a decade ago. $11M in tax payer short falls with dead and dying veterans have not change their paradyme. These are not ethical people, but I have not really uncovered any/ many in 21st Century American politics!

  5. Red Phillips Says:

    The sound you hear is CFABVH’s ax grinding. CFABVH, what does your pet issue have to do with the topic at hand? Quit thread hijacking.

  6. MPM Says:

    I think he just needs to be in a Veterans’ Home so he may receive proper dementia treatment. Seriously, I mean every post of his is off topic.

  7. CPNCChair Says:

    IAM freedom

    Going to the sinking LP ship of warmongering Barr.Yup, thats a way to deal with those “dishonest” CPers.BTW-not too much moola coming our way anyway.LP has a whoole lot more.

    Reed Huestis-going to vote for Baldwin after all??

  8. Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] Says:

    Ed Phillips, that ‘[t] ax grinding’ is the sound of dead and dying veterans and millions of dollars of California tax dollars filling in for federal funds with held due to documented lethal neglect!

    High jacking? You see and hear Clue less Jim King in 2008. I do not know your connection with San Bernardino Jim, but may be you [out of ignorance] believe what Jim says. I can give you RELEVANT, SALIENT, FIRST HAND, DECADE OLD Information on Jim’s knowledge and accuracy!

    Ten years ago Jim was either grossly incompetant or an out and out liar. And that, as scores of California FORMER AIPers know, is extremely ‘en pointe’!

    Ed, If I was saying something YOU LIKED you’d probably be patting me on the back! I do not care if you like or dislike me, but you need to get acquainted/ re-aquainted with the truth. And with it comes to Jim King, I and Citizens For A Better Veterans Home, we know the truth——from a decade ago.

    If you supply a mailing address [POB or PMB is AOK] we can photo copy 1998 – 1999 AIP bull shit letters for you!

    [Is that what you have faith in, steer manure?]

  9. VALEDICTION Says:

    I’m sorry, but like it or not, it seems like Mr. Noonan has done his homework on this issue, and that Mr. King and his spin-doctors have not.

    After the AIP dumped Baldwin, Mr. King and his spin-doctors told us to ignore all of this, insisting that Mr. Noonan had his facts wrong.

    Then after the AIP website affirmed the legitimacy of Mr. Noonan’s position, Mr. King and his spin-doctors told us to ignore that website, insisting that even the website had its facts wrong.

    And now that the Secretary of State has weighed in on the matter, and has likewise affirmed the legitimacy of Mr. Noonan’s position, Mr. King and his spin-doctors would now have us believe that the Secretary of State also has her facts wrong, somehow.

    Now, supposing that Mr. King is even capable of taking such a trivial matter to court, it seems to me that this whole “controversy” has already lost all of its credibility, despite all of the complaints that have been voiced over and over again on this website (and always by the same three people, mind you).

    Meanwhile, I must say, kudos to Mr. Noonan for having a good head on his shoulders, and for having had the courage to introduce a new possibility for conservatives in California.

    Joe

  10. Larry Says:

    Constitution Party people tried to get me to switch from Libertarian Party. They kept saying they were bigger. I checked out the facts. They were and are taking several parties, adding them up and calling that a party. Well a little dishonest if you ask me. I am staying Libertarian.

  11. Ben Says:

    Larry, the Constitution Party never has been nor never will be the third largest political party in these united States of America. They are a distant fifth. The only question is whether the Greens are bigger than the Libertarians. IMOHO, I would have to say that the Libertarian Party is larger than the Green Party, but I am biased since I have many more friends in the Libertarian Party than the GP.

  12. Red Phillips Says:

    “and for having had the courage to introduce a new possibility for conservatives in California.”

    Yeah, now “conservatives” can vote for neocon interventionist McAmnesty or neocon interventionist Keyes.

  13. Don Grundmann Says:

    VALEDICTION Says:

    July 23rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    I’m sorry, but like it or not, it seems like Mr. Noonan has done his homework on this issue, and that Mr. King and his spin-doctors have not.

    After the AIP dumped Baldwin, Mr. King and his spin-doctors told us to ignore all of this, insisting that Mr. Noonan had his facts wrong.

    Then after the AIP website affirmed the legitimacy of Mr. Noonan’s position, Mr. King and his spin-doctors told us to ignore that website, insisting that even the website had its facts wrong.

    And now that the Secretary of State has weighed in on the matter, and has likewise affirmed the legitimacy of Mr. Noonan’s position, Mr. King and his spin-doctors would now have us believe that the Secretary of State also has her facts wrong, somehow.

    Now, supposing that Mr. King is even capable of taking such a trivial matter to court, it seems to me that this whole “controversy” has already lost all of its credibility, despite all of the complaints that have been voiced over and over again on this website (and always by the same three people, mind you).

    Meanwhile, I must say, kudos to Mr. Noonan for having a good head on his shoulders, and for having had the courage to introduce a new possibility for conservatives in California.”

    Response : As the Vice-Chairman of the REAL AIP, whose Chairman is Jim King, I can state the following :

    1) The by-laws of the AIP allow a majority of the central committee to call a convention and this was done resulting in the Los Angeles convention of 6-28 & 29. This convention and the resulting election of officers, including myself, was completely legal and in compliance with AIP by-laws, the Election Code, and Roberts Rules of Order as was confirmed by a professional parlimentarian that we hired to monitor our convention to ensure that we would be in compliance with all Codes and by-laws. Ed Noonan and his fellow liars and traitors planned a subsequent ” convention ” on 7-4 & 5 in Sacramento because he planned on unilaterally declaring that anyone voting against his side was ineligible to vote. He would hence stack the deck and declare that his faction of liars won. In Los Angeles we would have allowed any of the rats to attend and vote as we had our professional parlimentarian to ensure fairness but Ed knew that unless he controlled the vote he would lose. Hence he could only have his fake ” convention ” in Sacramento where the plan was to disqualify his opponents from voting by having the liar Mark Robinson act as ” Parlimentarian ” to control the vote and support Eds’ untilateral declarations in stopping voting by his opponents.

    2) Keyes told Ed early on that he would stack the convention with 500 of his supporters in order to steal the AIP away from the CP and into Keyes fake party. The attendance at the fake Sacramento ” convention ” was 19 including our spies. The attendance in Los Angeles was 45. The fake ” convention ” in Sacramento added proxies to bring their number to 47. Our professional parlimentarian advised us that the Election Code and AIP by-laws did not allow for the use of proxies so they were hence not allowed in Los Angeles but were allowed at the liars ” convention ” in Sacramento.

    3) The liars, especially Mark Robinson, claim that the Los Angeles convention virtually dragged people in off the street to find delegates. This complete and total lie ( standard procedure for Mark Robinson ) is their stupid and cheap attempt ( one of many ) to belittle the Los Angeles convention. Our professional parlimentarian will certify that all of our actions were completely legal and in compliance with all laws. Our delegates were completely legal and long established members of the party.

    4) On Friday 6-27 the Noonan rats had a online/phone ” convention ” ( totally against both the Election Code and AIP by-laws ) where they disaffiliated from the CP and joined Keyes fake/rat party. Only Noonan supporters ( all 5 of them including Ed ) were notified and no other central committee members were informed. After this ” convention ” they filed a disaffiliation document with the Secretary of States’ office. A totally fake document produced by a completely illegal ” convention ” as a cheap stunt to file papers first as they knew that the legal Los Angeles convention would reaffiliate with the CP.

    5) Mr. Noonan does not ” have a good head on his shoulders.” He is, as with his fellow Judases of Mark Robinson and Mark Seidenberg, a outright liar. They are all political rapists who work to hold the Constitution Party down so that Alan Keyes can rape it. They are destroyers and can never build anything. That is why they are relying on court corruption to achieve what they could never otherwise do. Ed Noonan is a betrayer and backstabber of the highest ( lowest ) order as Bill Schear chose him to protect and continue the party with the CP. Instead he has betrayed Bill Schear and put a knife in his back. Ed Noonan is, hands-down with no possible other competition, the worst Chairman ever of the AIP and probably of any political party in the history of the nation. If Bill Schear were still alive he would beat Ed Noonan to death with his cane for his sickening betrayal. People who know the facts know that Ed Noonan, Mark Robinson, and Mark Seidenberg are liars, rats, and traitors. They will be defeated.

  14. Cody Quirk Says:

    I think this is the same ‘Joe’ from New York that bashed the CP over keeping a state affiliate lead by Mormons.

  15. Cody Quirk Says:

    BTW Joe, I addressed Ed Noonan and the Elections Code in a previous article here, why don’t you read it and check out the Cali. Elections Codes before you open your mouth.

    And Ed Noonan claimed that the CP has never elected anybody to office, which is outright bull.

  16. Gary Odom Says:

    Bravo, Don Grundmann!

    Well said and accurately stated by a man of honor and integrity.

  17. Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAF Says:

    I also say to “Doc Grundmann”....well said and accurately stated by a man of honor and integrity…as well! God Bless You Doc! -Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.) USAF, Nat.Chrm. NVC/CP…www.nvets.org

  18. RRHeustisJr Says:

    CPNC Chair says:
    Reed Huestis (sic) -going to vote for Baldwin after all??

    I never said I was, but I never said I wasn’t either.

    I can say this though: Baldwin’s selection of Darell Castle as Veep destroyed any enthusiasm I might have had for a Baldwin Presidency.

    Mr. Castle’s vote in Tampa in 2006 for continued affiliation with the pro-abort Nevada affiliate, renders Castle totally ineligible to be a legitimate pro-life champion, in my humble opinion.

    Whenever I vote for President, I want absolute confidence that my candidate will not compromise on the Life issue by appointing pro-aborts to his Administration and tolerating those who endorse baby-murder. Mr. Baldwin’s selection of Castle does not give me any confidence whatsoever in a Baldwin Administration.

    Therefore, I cannot endorse Baldwin’s candidacy at this time.

    It may not matter for me anyway, in California at least. Unless the Courts overturn the SOS’s decision to place Alan Keyes on the ballot, I would be unable to cast a vote for Baldwin, even if I wanted to, unless it was as a meaningless write-in vote.

    Nevertheless, my main purpose for showing up at the polls this Autumn is to cast a vote in favor of the California Marriage Protection Act, Proposition 8, a desperately needed California Constitutional amendment that would define marriage as being only between one man and one woman.

    Only 50 percent of the vote is needed for the Amendment to pass. I intend to be among that percentage.

  19. Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAF Says:

    Mr. RRHEUSTIS JR. ....YOU sir are another knucklehead, that does not know what you are talking about. I figure you are one of those ridiculas religion zealot purists that look for a walking saint with no blemishes.

    I know Darrell Castle personally. He stands on the issues the very same way I do. He stands by the PLATFORM of our party, which makes big sense to me…”common sense”. He is PRO-LIFE enough for me. What comes out of the hole in your face is pure bunk. Like our founding fathers told their ‘misfits’....JOIN OR DIE. Darrell Castle is a patriot, in every sense of the word. A Vietnam veteran and a wonderful caring man.
    I will STAND UP for any and all in our Constitution party (aka: American Independent Party) every chance I can, whenever ANY knucklehead makes ridiculas comments as you. HEY! I was in favor of standing by faithfully , the Nevada IAP too! THEY WERE NEVER PRO-ABORTION AT ANY TIME. Read the platform knucklehead! The platform stands on itself. Where YOU are so wrapped up in “technicalities”, sweating the small stuff, in the meantime, our republic is going down the drain. YOU have no common sense.

    -Larry Breazeale, Msgt.(ret.)USAF
    Nat.Chrm.National Veterans Coalition,
    Constitution party…www.nvets.org
    Chairman, Orange County Central Committee,
    American Independent Party

  20. Ben Says:

    Mr. Breazeale, thank you for reminding me why I am glad to be out of the CP. What good is a platform if your candidates and leaders do not agree with it? It is little more than a PR document and a misleading one at that. Many of us left the GOP in the first place because we could see with our own eyes that the Republican Party platform was meaningless when her candidates were not required to support the platform. Your name-calling and screaming do not endear any one to you, but your fellow CP shills. You make Ed Noonan look calm and reasonable by comparison. Oh and BTW, being a write-in candidate by its very nature means that a candidate is not on the ballot. Interesting Orwellian double-think and double-speak you have going on there.

  21. RRHeustisJr Says:

    Larry Breazele says: He is PRO-LIFE enough for me.

    If Mr. Castle is “pro-life” enough for you, then have at it. Support him – I’m not stopping you, or criticizing you for supporting him.

    I simply stated my opinion as to why I have neither confidence nor enthusiasm in a Baldwin candidacy. My vote belongs to me, not to Larry Breazele.

    If that makes me a “knucklehead,” then so be it. The name-calling criticism, not to mention the choice of words, is juvenile.

    I did not realize that as an independent citizen I was required to toe your line and think exactly as you think in order to be one of the good guys or to have “common sense,” as you claim that you have.

    Larry Breazele also says: The platform stands on itself.

    On the contrary, a party’s platform can never “stand on itself.” The document must be enforced. No document can “stand on itself.” For example, if the U.S. Constitution is never enforced, then it is foolish to suggest that the Constitution “stands on itself.” It absolutely must be enforced if it’s going to stand up at all.

    The same thing with a party platform. Simply put, a party’s platform is worth absolutely nothing unless the party’s leaders enforce it, especially on principles that must never be compromised, such as the Right to Life. A soiled sheet of Charmin bathroom tissue is worth more than an unenforced party platform. Click here to choose between Ultra Strong or Ultra Soft....

    It is my opinion that the Nevada CP affiliate’s supposedly pro-life platform likewise was meaningless when the state party itself regularly elected (and continues to elect) pro-abort party officers, not to mention anything about the pro-abort candidates for office.

    These are my opinions, and I am not forcing you to adopt them.

    The “hole in my mouth” is free to state my opinions; and if you feel the need to label someone a “knucklehead” for holding to adverse opinions, then I suppose you have the freedom to do the same.

  22. Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] Says:

    Larry knows stuff ‘fer sure’ that he has never seen or heard of. He is a Cody Quirk unthinking Stepford CP activist. If his cabal says some thing, then trustingly, he agrees as if it were documented truth!

    When confronted with documented proof he shuts his ears, opens his mouth, and yells snarkies at the top of his lungs. Yer can’t be a leader if not many folks follow you! And Middle School students like Quirk and Breazeale are a dime a dozen! They can be found in droves on any Junior High School play ground!

  23. Cody Quirk Says:

    Mr. Breazeale, thank you for reminding me why I am glad to be out of the CP. What good is a platform if your candidates and leaders do not agree with it?

    = What good is a political party if a platform must be exclusive enough to keep out 99% of all well-meaning conservatives?

    BTW, the issue wasn’t about Abortion, it was about finding a excuse to kick out a state affiliate whose members belong to the LDS Church, and then starting a snowball effect that would have purified the CP of its Mormon membership.

    Care to dispute me on that? Because I have the evidence to prove it.

  24. Cody Quirk Says:

    People like Citizens are a penny a dozen; all they have is rhetoric and misspelled lies.

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