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	<title>Comments on: LP Senate Candidate: &#8216;Bomb Those Camel-Dung Shovelers&#8217;</title>
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		<title>by: Joseph Marzullo</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-723133</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Joseph Marzullo</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-723132</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: K D Tunstall</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-717953</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Ayn R. Key Says: 

July 23rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm 
Ain’t the Reform Caucus great?&quot;

Mr. Landham is not a member of the LRC as evidenced here: 

http://reformthelp.org/home/about/members.php

With all due respect, if you cannot express yourself in truthfully, perhaps you should not post on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Ayn R. Key Says:</p>
	<p>July 23rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm<br />
Ain&#8217;t the Reform Caucus great?&#8221;</p>
	<p>Mr. Landham is not a member of the <span class="caps">LRC</span> as evidenced here:</p>
	<p><a href='http://reformthelp.org/home/about/members.php' rel='nofollow'>http://reformthelp.org/home/about/members.php</a></p>
	<p>With all due respect, if you cannot express yourself in truthfully, perhaps you should not post on the internet.</p>
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		<title>by: Mike Gillis</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-713378</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-713378</guid>
					<description>Ragin,

There's such a thing as &quot;bad attention&quot; in politics, just as there is for children.

By your logic, the smartest thing all third party candidates could do is say something racist, offensive and controversial, just to get the press.

Better yet, why not pull out a gun and shoot someone at a rally for your campaign? That'd REALLY get peoples' attention.

It also leaves a bad taste in the mouth of the electorate and it becomes a hurdle that every future candidate in that party will have to clear. 

Whereas the big two can run a nut and people think, &quot;Man, what a nut&quot;, if that same candidate were to run as a Libertarian/Green, they'd think &quot;the Libertarians/Greens are nuts&quot;

And every KY LPer will have to worry about Landham's racist aftertaste and it could potentially cost them votes in future elections. Cost them votes from people who hate war and people who hate racism - two groups that the LP should at least have a real shot at winning.

Because if you're going to just support sacrificing a party's principles to get attention, then you sacrifice the whole point of having that party in the first place. If what you promote and get votes with, is antithetical to the party's real views, that's no win but a loss.

And frankly, I have no problem with controversy. Just make sure it's controversy YOU BELIEVE IN. Otherwise, it's the political equivalent of that kid in grade school who used to eat bugs and dirt to get attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ragin,</p>
	<p>There&#8217;s such a thing as &#8220;bad attention&#8221; in politics, just as there is for children.</p>
	<p>By your logic, the smartest thing all third party candidates could do is say something racist, offensive and controversial, just to get the press.</p>
	<p>Better yet, why not pull out a gun and shoot someone at a rally for your campaign? That&#8217;d <span class="caps">REALLY</span> get peoples&#8217; attention.</p>
	<p>It also leaves a bad taste in the mouth of the electorate and it becomes a hurdle that every future candidate in that party will have to clear.</p>
	<p>Whereas the big two can run a nut and people think, &#8220;Man, what a nut&#8221;, if that same candidate were to run as a Libertarian/Green, they&#8217;d think &#8220;the Libertarians/Greens are nuts&#8221;</p>
	<p>And every <span class="caps">KY L</span>Per will have to worry about Landham&#8217;s racist aftertaste and it could potentially cost them votes in future elections. Cost them votes from people who hate war and people who hate racism &#8211; two groups that the LP should at least have a real shot at winning.</p>
	<p>Because if you&#8217;re going to just support sacrificing a party&#8217;s principles to get attention, then you sacrifice the whole point of having that party in the first place. If what you promote and get votes with, is antithetical to the party&#8217;s real views, that&#8217;s no win but a loss.</p>
	<p>And frankly, I have no problem with controversy. Just make sure it&#8217;s controversy <span class="caps">YOU BELIEVE IN</span>. Otherwise, it&#8217;s the political equivalent of that kid in grade school who used to eat bugs and dirt to get attention.</p>
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		<title>by: Ragin' Alsatian</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-713353</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-713353</guid>
					<description>Show me any other LP candidate that has 1/4th the news coverage and influence that landham is getting currently in Kentucky and across America. The LP states it is the largest third party, well it is still far behind the main two. An LP candidate has two choices. Be ignored or be controversial. Which is going to get you a chance of being elected. Landham is doing what he has to in KY. You can suppot &quot;educating&quot; cause that has done so much so far. Mu choice is to be effective. &quot;Go big or go home!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Show me any other LP candidate that has 1/4th the news coverage and influence that landham is getting currently in Kentucky and across America. The LP states it is the largest third party, well it is still far behind the main two. An LP candidate has two choices. Be ignored or be controversial. Which is going to get you a chance of being elected. Landham is doing what he has to in KY. You can suppot &#8220;educating&#8221; cause that has done so much so far. Mu choice is to be effective. &#8220;Go big or go home!&#8221; </p>
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		<title>by: Larry West</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-713051</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-713051</guid>
					<description>&amp;#62; Whether it racist or not, it will be percieved as racist. And that is not good politics.

Remember we are talking Kentucky politics here, where there were (unfortunately) many Democrats who freely admitted to polsters, people they didn't know, that they voted for Clinton because Obama was black. I am guessing that more Kentuckians would have more problems with Landham's pornographic movie career than they would with any of his racist statements.

Frankly, I think the only way Landham could even get into double digits would be to for him to invoke &quot;class warfare&quot; (stating that Lunsford (D) and McConnell (R) are both multi-multi-millionaires, while he isn't, thus he would be more representative of the average Kentuckian), not &quot;race warfare&quot;, although racist blue-dog Democrats are going to have a hard time this year and he might be trying to tap into them.

FWIW, I have read that Landham is still having problems getting the 500 signatures STATEWIDE to get on the ballot, while Libertarian Candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, Ed Martin, has filed his 400 needed signatures from Louisville (source: http://polwatchers.typepad.com/pol_watchers/2008/07/libertarian-files-to-run-in-3rd-congressional-district.html).

Perhaps the party should stop the signature drive before Landham embarasses it further.

(P.S. You can call me Larry whether you agree with me or not.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>> Whether it racist or not, it will be percieved as racist. And that is not good politics.</p>
	<p>Remember we are talking Kentucky politics here, where there were (unfortunately) many Democrats who freely admitted to polsters, people they didn&#8217;t know, that they voted for Clinton because Obama was black. I am guessing that more Kentuckians would have more problems with Landham&#8217;s pornographic movie career than they would with any of his racist statements.</p>
	<p>Frankly, I think the only way Landham could even get into double digits would be to for him to invoke &#8220;class warfare&#8221; (stating that Lunsford (D) and McConnell&#174; are both multi-multi-millionaires, while he isn&#8217;t, thus he would be more representative of the average Kentuckian), not &#8220;race warfare&#8221;, although racist blue-dog Democrats are going to have a hard time this year and he might be trying to tap into them.</p>
	<p><span class="caps">FWIW</span>, I have read that Landham is still having problems getting the 500 signatures <span class="caps">STATEWIDE</span> to get on the ballot, while Libertarian Candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, Ed Martin, has filed his 400 needed signatures from Louisville (source: <a href='http://polwatchers.typepad.com/pol_watchers/2008/07/libertarian-files-to-run-in-3rd-congressional-district.html' rel='nofollow'>http://polwatchers.typepad.com/pol_watchers/2008/07/libertarian-files-to-run-in-3rd-congressional-district.html</a>).</p>
	<p>Perhaps the party should stop the signature drive before Landham embarasses it further.</p>
	<p>(P.S. You can call me Larry whether you agree with me or not.)</p>
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		<title>by: Simon Girty</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-712785</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-712785</guid>
					<description>Whether it racist or not, it will be percieved as racist. And that is not good politics.

But the real problem, as Susan (may I call you Susan?) pointed out it the bombing threat. 

They have what we want. If they wont sell it to us at the price we like then we should initiate force to take it. Real libertarian...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Whether it racist or not, it will be percieved as racist. And that is not good politics.</p>
	<p>But the real problem, as Susan (may I call you Susan?) pointed out it the bombing threat.</p>
	<p>They have what we want. If they wont sell it to us at the price we like then we should initiate force to take it. Real libertarian&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s]</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-712397</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-712397</guid>
					<description>Eric, heard from the Pope lately?   ----- Don Lake</description>
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		<title>by: Jason</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711919</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711919</guid>
					<description>You bunch of hyper-sensitive pansies. I don't want to count how many times i read the word racist. That words needs to be removed from the english language because it has lost its meaning. It's thrown around more than dirty underwear. 

What he said is not racist. It's direct, pointed but a stupid choice of words for a politician to make. That doesn't make him a racist and besides, people have the right to speak, say or write anything they want. 

The more crap I read especially about the Texas city councilmen who got worked up over the &quot;Black Hole&quot; comment along with the social acceptance of picking on West Virginians for being supposedly inbread and referring to to people in the South as Rednecks, the more I find this kind of talk refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You bunch of hyper-sensitive pansies. I don&#8217;t want to count how many times i read the word racist. That words needs to be removed from the english language because it has lost its meaning. It&#8217;s thrown around more than dirty underwear.</p>
	<p>What he said is not racist. It&#8217;s direct, pointed but a stupid choice of words for a politician to make. That doesn&#8217;t make him a racist and besides, people have the right to speak, say or write anything they want.</p>
	<p>The more crap I read especially about the Texas city councilmen who got worked up over the &#8220;Black Hole&#8221; comment along with the social acceptance of picking on West Virginians for being supposedly inbread and referring to to people in the South as Rednecks, the more I find this kind of talk refreshing.</p>
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		<title>by: Clark</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711520</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711520</guid>
					<description>...landham..yet another dipshit republicrat to whom it's axiomatic that the U.S. inc. is world bully-boy, judge, jury and executioner!..

WITH LP SHIT-HEADS LIKE LANDHAM..WHO NEEDS THE STINKING WARMONGERING REPUBLICRATS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>...landham..yet another dipshit republicrat to whom it&#8217;s axiomatic that the U.S. inc. is world bully-boy, judge, jury and executioner!..</p>
	<p><span class="caps">WITH LP SHIT</span>-HEADS <span class="caps">LIKE LANDHAM</span>..WHO <span class="caps">NEEDS THE STINKING WARMONGERING REPUBLICRATS</span>?</p>
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		<title>by: Lance Brown</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711452</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711452</guid>
					<description>Point of Information, Eric...would it be acceptable for your adversaries to call your Mr. Eric Dondero Rittberg, Camel-Dung Shoveler? Does that create a sufficient amount of formal distance for your needs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Point of Information, Eric&#8230;would it be acceptable for your adversaries to call your Mr. Eric Dondero Rittberg, Camel-Dung Shoveler? Does that create a sufficient amount of formal distance for your needs?</p>
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		<title>by: Lance Brown</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711444</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-711444</guid>
					<description>Eric Dondero,

Seeing as how you are posting comments as &quot;Eric Dondero&quot;, it could be argued that you have opened the door to people referring to you as &quot;Eric&quot;. You could have posted as &quot;Mr. Dondero&quot;, &quot;Rittberg&quot;, or whatever, and that would send a different message, But if you don't want your &quot;adversaries&quot; (of which I would guess there are many on this site) referring to you as &quot;Eric&quot;, you might want to try a new user name. Because Eric is what you are introducing yourself as.

At the very least, Eric, I would say that web forum common law dictates that anyone in the discussion here can call you &quot;Eric Dondero&quot;, since that is your official name here. If I were Mr. Garris, I'd probably do that just to rattle your cage. You wouldn't be in any position to object, really. Asking someone to be more polite to you because you hate them isn't much of a bargaining position, Eric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eric Dondero,</p>
	<p>Seeing as how you are posting comments as &#8220;Eric Dondero&#8221;, it could be argued that you have opened the door to people referring to you as &#8220;Eric&#8221;. You could have posted as &#8220;Mr. Dondero&#8221;, &#8220;Rittberg&#8221;, or whatever, and that would send a different message, But if you don&#8217;t want your &#8220;adversaries&#8221; (of which I would guess there are many on this site) referring to you as &#8220;Eric&#8221;, you might want to try a new user name. Because Eric is what you are introducing yourself as.</p>
	<p>At the very least, Eric, I would say that web forum common law dictates that anyone in the discussion here can call you &#8220;Eric Dondero&#8221;, since that is your official name here. If I were Mr. Garris, I&#8217;d probably do that just to rattle your cage. You wouldn&#8217;t be in any position to object, really. Asking someone to be more polite to you because you hate them isn&#8217;t much of a bargaining position, Eric.</p>
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		<title>by: Ayn R. Key</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-710853</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like how Eric Dondero is so deftly avoiding Eric Garris' content by complaining about use of a first name.

What's wrong with Garris' questions that causes you to avoid them so determinidely, Eric?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I like how Eric Dondero is so deftly avoiding Eric Garris&#8217; content by complaining about use of a first name.</p>
	<p>What&#8217;s wrong with Garris&#8217; questions that causes you to avoid them so determinidely, Eric?</p>
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		<title>by: Mark Smith</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-710820</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-710820</guid>
					<description>&quot;Garris and his ilk, much prefer tossing flower pedals at those who’d like to destroy the United States ...&quot; 

A flower has tossable petals.
While cars, bikes and drum sets have pedals.
I'd give Eric a pass,
but that pain in the ass
Still refuses to show us his medals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Garris and his ilk, much prefer tossing flower pedals at those who&#8217;d like to destroy the United States &#8230;&#8221;</p>
	<p>A flower has tossable petals.<br />
While cars, bikes and drum sets have pedals.<br />
I&#8217;d give Eric a pass,<br />
but that pain in the ass<br />
Still refuses to show us his medals.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-710795</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/07/23/lp-senate-candidate-bomb-those-camel-dung-shovelers/#comment-710795</guid>
					<description>Hey Garris, again, you are not a friend, nor even a political ally, but rather the complete opposite.  Please refrain from using my first name.  I am asking you kindly.  It's a very simple request.  I'd be glad to engage you in further discussions.  But I ask you simply to address me as &quot;Dondero,&quot; &quot;Rittberg&quot; Mr. Rittberg&quot; whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Garris, again, you are not a friend, nor even a political ally, but rather the complete opposite.  Please refrain from using my first name.  I am asking you kindly.  It&#8217;s a very simple request.  I&#8217;d be glad to engage you in further discussions.  But I ask you simply to address me as &#8220;Dondero,&#8221; &#8220;Rittberg&#8221; Mr. Rittberg&#8221; whatever.</p>
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