Comments on: 2-party system: No choice but evil http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:39:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Don Grundmann http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-801795 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:51:42 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-801795 " D Kennedy Says: August 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm As I said before, you are have a very sick mind. I totally disagree with your premise which negates your entire argument. Seems your ideals and attitudes are directly in contrast with your Savoir’s. Seek help for your tortured and twisted mind." Response : As a typical pro-death creature you make the smear but present nothing to back it up. My premise is the defense of human life which begins at conception; a scientific reality that, like gravity and 2+2=4 cannot be refuted ( but will be by pro-death nitwits ). My Savior gave His life for the reconciliation of humanity with God. Of course those who support His opponent will, as all pro-death/abortion creatures do, stand against human life. They, as God haters, love the shredding of children since they represent the future and are a gift from God. I notice that you have not a second of complaint against 25 million+ women being shredded and mutilated. I stand in defense of human life against those ( like you ) who believe in and celebrate genocide. I stand in defense of women against those ( like you ) who watch ( and cheer ) from the bleachers of life as 25 million + of them are slaughtered/shredded/mutilated. Of course death creatures always claim that those who defend life have " a very sick mind." They see their love of death as a virtue and claim to be " defenders of women " even as they lead them to the slaughter of abortion. It is you, via your belief in death, who are twisted. Hell will take care of the tortured part. ” D Kennedy Says:

August 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm
As I said before, you are have a very sick mind. I totally disagree with your premise which negates your entire argument.
Seems your ideals and attitudes are directly in contrast with your Savoir’s. Seek help for your tortured and twisted mind.”

Response : As a typical pro-death creature you make the smear but present nothing to back it up. My premise is the defense of human life which begins at conception; a scientific reality that, like gravity and 2+2=4 cannot be refuted ( but will be by pro-death nitwits ). My Savior gave His life for the reconciliation of humanity with God. Of course those who support His opponent will, as all pro-death/abortion creatures do, stand against human life. They, as God haters, love the shredding of children since they represent the future and are a gift from God. I notice that you have not a second of complaint against 25 million+ women being shredded and mutilated. I stand in defense of human life against those ( like you ) who believe in and celebrate genocide. I stand in defense of women against those ( like you ) who watch ( and cheer ) from the bleachers of life as 25 million + of them are slaughtered/shredded/mutilated. Of course death creatures always claim that those who defend life have ” a very sick mind.” They see their love of death as a virtue and claim to be ” defenders of women ” even as they lead them to the slaughter of abortion. It is you, via your belief in death, who are twisted. Hell will take care of the tortured part.

]]> by: D Kennedy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-800867 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:01:45 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-800867 As I said before, you are have a very sick mind. I totally disagree with your premise which negates your entire argument. Seems your ideals and attitudes are directly in contrast with your Savoir's. Seek help for your tortured and twisted mind. As I said before, you are have a very sick mind. I totally disagree with your premise which negates your entire argument.
Seems your ideals and attitudes are directly in contrast with your Savoir’s. Seek help for your tortured and twisted mind.

]]> by: Don Grundmann http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-800041 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:00:24 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-800041 " You are free to think the way you do – but keep your stinkin’ hands away from other female’s bodies." Response : 50 million + children mutilated/shredded via abortion = 25 million + women slaughtered. This does not even count the emotional destruction of countless women by being lied to by the abortion industry that the killing of their child was no different than brushing their teeth. Of course such things are beyond trivial to you and they can thank you for coming to their defense. I don't touch female bodies to stop abortion. I do 1) appeal to their conscience which pro-death/abortion mutants want to destroy along with the unborn child; 2) work to stop the ghouls/fiends who love the shredding of children via abortion; and 3) expose the truth of the slaughter and the evil of those who support/love it. So of course you don't want me anywhere near a position of power or policymaking because I could then more effectively combat the genocide which you are quite happy with. The child shredding of abortion is, in addition to everything else, a act of telling God to stick-it-where-the-sun-doesn't-shine because I( the singular abortion lover like you )/we ( the collective abortion lovers )think your creation is crap just like we think you the Creator are crap. Abortion is man telling God to go to hell and abortion supporters, like you, are telling God the same thing. But have fun laughing at the Creator. You will have eternity to laugh out loud. I don't know a lot about the Jewish religion but I presume that you are not Orthodox as I believe the Reformed and another even more liberal division of Judaism which name I have forgotten are the groups within it that have no problem with child mutilation. They are similar to Unitarians in both action and a God-can-go-to-hell philosophy - you can chop up the child right in front of them and they will have no complaint. You have plenty of company with Methodists and Episcopalians too. ” You are free to think the way you do – but keep your stinkin’ hands away from other female’s bodies.”

Response : 50 million + children mutilated/shredded via abortion = 25 million + women slaughtered. This does not even count the emotional destruction of countless women by being lied to by the abortion industry that the killing of their child was no different than brushing their teeth. Of course such things are beyond trivial to you and they can thank you for coming to their defense. I don’t touch female bodies to stop abortion. I do 1) appeal to their conscience which pro-death/abortion mutants want to destroy along with the unborn child; 2) work to stop the ghouls/fiends who love the shredding of children via abortion; and 3) expose the truth of the slaughter and the evil of those who support/love it. So of course you don’t want me anywhere near a position of power or policymaking because I could then more effectively combat the genocide which you are quite happy with. The child shredding of abortion is, in addition to everything else, a act of telling God to stick-it-where-the-sun-doesn’t-shine because I( the singular abortion lover like you )/we ( the collective abortion lovers )think your creation is crap just like we think you the Creator are crap. Abortion is man telling God to go to hell and abortion supporters, like you, are telling God the same thing. But have fun laughing at the Creator. You will have eternity to laugh out loud. I don’t know a lot about the Jewish religion but I presume that you are not Orthodox as I believe the Reformed and another even more liberal division of Judaism which name I have forgotten are the groups within it that have no problem with child mutilation. They are similar to Unitarians in both action and a God-can-go-to-hell philosophy – you can chop up the child right in front of them and they will have no complaint. You have plenty of company with Methodists and Episcopalians too.

]]> by: D Kennedy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-795984 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:20:31 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-795984 Don, I am Jewish and Jews believe that the mother is in full control of deciding the fate of the embryo and fetus until it is born alive. I doubt that all Jews will be going to hell (if it exists). And your Jewish born messiah even (was claimed to say hundreds of years later) that he did not come to earth to change the law. You are free to think the way you do - but keep your stinkin' hands away from other female's bodies. Read the following quite closely: Just because you believe in your heart and mind that you are correct - does NOT make you correct in the hearts and minds of others. Speak what you want, but I am sure glad that you are not in a position of power or policymaking. Don, I am Jewish and Jews believe that the mother is in full control of deciding the fate of the embryo and fetus until it is born alive. I doubt that all Jews will be going to hell (if it exists). And your Jewish born messiah even (was claimed to say hundreds of years later) that he did not come to earth to change the law.
You are free to think the way you do – but keep your stinkin’ hands away from other female’s bodies. Read the following quite closely: Just because you believe in your heart and mind that you are correct – does NOT make you correct in the hearts and minds of others.
Speak what you want, but I am sure glad that you are not in a position of power or policymaking.

]]> by: Don Grundmann http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-794657 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:06:40 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-794657 " D Kennedy Says: August 19th, 2008 at 10:26 pm Don is a sick person who must be ignored. He spews hate and raped interpretations of his bible.He is so “Hitlerish” he disgusts me. He is nothing but an spiteful troll." Response : D. Kennedy - I meant to write to you that I may have misinterpreted your previous comment to indicate that you support the child mutilation/shredding/slaughter of children known as abortion. If you don't support this genocide then my apology to you for inferring such. If you do support the genocide then you will be going to hell. Of course relevant to your most recent comment I expect you to clearly indicate how I, or anyone else, " spew hate " when I am simply standing in defense of the countless children who are killed by the lovers and purveyors of abortion. A common-as-sand tactic of those who love death ( those who support abortion ) is to claim that those who stand in defense of children " spew hate," are " hateful," "bigoted," yada, yada, yada, as they refuse to discuss their own support of genocide; i.e.; hatred of the unborn. If you, or anyone else, support abortion you will go to hell for eternity. It's very simple. When you tell God to go to hell by shredding his creation you will have eternity to " enjoy " your contempt and hatred of our ( yours and mine ) Creator. You can spout on all you want about " spewing hate " but unless you change by admitting your sin and repenting you will go to hell for your crime against God and humanity. Very simple. Your choice. Your responsibility. Your accountability. No one else. " Trolls " come out from under their bridge and kill ( eat ) passersby. Just like abortionists and their supporters ( their fellow lovers of death ). ” D Kennedy Says:

August 19th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Don is a sick person who must be ignored. He spews hate and raped interpretations of his bible.He is so “Hitlerish” he disgusts me. He is nothing but an spiteful troll.”

Response : D. Kennedy – I meant to write to you that I may have misinterpreted your previous comment to indicate that you support the child mutilation/shredding/slaughter of children known as abortion. If you don’t support this genocide then my apology to you for inferring such. If you do support the genocide then you will be going to hell. Of course relevant to your most recent comment I expect you to clearly indicate how I, or anyone else, ” spew hate ” when I am simply standing in defense of the countless children who are killed by the lovers and purveyors of abortion. A common-as-sand tactic of those who love death ( those who support abortion ) is to claim that those who stand in defense of children ” spew hate,” are ” hateful,” “bigoted,” yada, yada, yada, as they refuse to discuss their own support of genocide; i.e.; hatred of the unborn. If you, or anyone else, support abortion you will go to hell for eternity. It’s very simple. When you tell God to go to hell by shredding his creation you will have eternity to ” enjoy ” your contempt and hatred of our ( yours and mine ) Creator. You can spout on all you want about ” spewing hate ” but unless you change by admitting your sin and repenting you will go to hell for your crime against God and humanity. Very simple. Your choice. Your responsibility. Your accountability. No one else. ” Trolls ” come out from under their bridge and kill ( eat ) passersby. Just like abortionists and their supporters ( their fellow lovers of death ).

]]> by: D Kennedy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-789519 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:26:46 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-789519 Don is a sick person who must be ignored. He spews hate and raped interpretations of his bible.He is so "Hitlerish" he disgusts me. He is nothing but an spiteful troll. Don is a sick person who must be ignored. He spews hate and raped interpretations of his bible.He is so “Hitlerish” he disgusts me. He is nothing but an spiteful troll.

]]> by: Don Grundmann http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-789440 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:47:21 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-789440 " Don, I am Jewish so I doubt your Savior (who practiced only Judaism) would “kick my butt”. It is SO hypocritical of you (and your ilk) to think that Jesus would advocate violence rather then love and comfort. If your version of the Messiah was acting accordingly, he would have preached to the people who disagreed with him and had only understanding. But of course, you perverted Him and his personality and views directly. If there is a Hell, you surely will dwell there forever with the other hateful sinners who pretend to by true Christians – but are EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!" Response : Carlsbad - Evil will of course want you ( as a representative weakling of the human race ) to " love and comfort " It rather than truly oppose it. To oppose evil is not to advocate violence although that may be needed. I notice that you have no comment regarding the violence that shreds and mutilates via abortion 50 million + children in America alone. Jesus threw out the money changers. He did not " love and comfort " them. Sickened Christianity, including fake Christians, advocate kissing the posterior of the enemies of humanity as if this was a Christian virtue. It is only their own human weakness and/or cowardice that is on display. " Understanding " does not stop evil. If evil will not stop its actions on its own then a outside force, inclusive of violence, must stop It. Wimps show " love and comfort " to evil and killers. Real people, real Christians, stop their evil by kicking their butts. Have fun brownnosing evil. The rest of us, the REAL people, will do the butt kicking that you are too wimpy, cowardly, and sick to do. ” Don, I am Jewish so I doubt your Savior (who practiced only Judaism) would “kick my butt”. It is SO hypocritical of you (and your ilk) to think that Jesus would advocate violence rather then love and comfort. If your version of the Messiah was acting accordingly, he would have preached to the people who disagreed with him and had only understanding. But of course, you perverted Him and his personality and views directly. If there is a Hell, you surely will dwell there forever with the other hateful sinners who pretend to by true Christians – but are EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!”

Response : Carlsbad – Evil will of course want you ( as a representative weakling of the human race ) to ” love and comfort ” It rather than truly oppose it. To oppose evil is not to advocate violence although that may be needed. I notice that you have no comment regarding the violence that shreds and mutilates via abortion 50 million + children in America alone. Jesus threw out the money changers. He did not ” love and comfort ” them. Sickened Christianity, including fake Christians, advocate kissing the posterior of the enemies of humanity as if this was a Christian virtue. It is only their own human weakness and/or cowardice that is on display. ” Understanding ” does not stop evil. If evil will not stop its actions on its own then a outside force, inclusive of violence, must stop It. Wimps show ” love and comfort ” to evil and killers. Real people, real Christians, stop their evil by kicking their butts. Have fun brownnosing evil. The rest of us, the REAL people, will do the butt kicking that you are too wimpy, cowardly, and sick to do.

]]> by: Carlsbad http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-789122 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:46:48 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-789122 Don, I am Jewish so I doubt your Savior (who practiced only Judaism) would "kick my butt". It is SO hypocritical of you (and your ilk) to think that Jesus would advocate violence rather then love and comfort. If your version of the Messiah was acting accordingly, he would have preached to the people who disagreed with him and had only understanding. But of course, you perverted Him and his personality and views directly. If there is a Hell, you surely will dwell there forever with the other hateful sinners who pretend to by true Christians - but are EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE! And Marc, can you spell "redneck"? At least you can get that right! Don, I am Jewish so I doubt your Savior (who practiced only Judaism) would “kick my butt”. It is SO hypocritical of you (and your ilk) to think that Jesus would advocate violence rather then love and comfort. If your version of the Messiah was acting accordingly, he would have preached to the people who disagreed with him and had only understanding. But of course, you perverted Him and his personality and views directly. If there is a Hell, you surely will dwell there forever with the other hateful sinners who pretend to by true Christians – but are EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
And Marc, can you spell “redneck”? At least you can get that right!

]]> by: james http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-787367 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:25:18 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-787367 Under penalty of death. Of course. Under penalty of death. Of course.

]]> by: marc rogers http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-786559 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:02:24 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-786559 Hey for those of you ignorant folks there are more than 20 Keyes supporters, and for the record the third party canidates in Vermont, where I used to live wrecked the state, How? with socialized medicine, civil union voted in behing closed doors, (We already had powers of attorney so all Vermonters want to do was tweek it abit avoid the media and society upheaval mess and move on) Also 240 plus founding fathers were christians now may I point out that it was those christians who were tolerant first now you amamdons are not tolerant of us nor of your countries founding.,nor of your fellow party memebers. You do not have to agree, that is true but respecting the founding of your nation should be the norm. Do not like that then move , and pay France or Germany all your money for all the social programs and laws that infringe on peoples rights. Also the libertarian,progressive and other parties DO NOTHING period for the right to education in Vermont. It is extremely hard to homeschool there and that my ignorant friend is the truth. Sure disagree all you want that is America, or at least for now. Hey for those of you ignorant folks there are more than 20 Keyes supporters, and for the record the third party canidates in Vermont, where I used to live wrecked the state, How? with socialized medicine, civil union voted in behing closed doors, (We already had powers of attorney so all Vermonters want to do was tweek it abit avoid the media and society upheaval mess and move on) Also 240 plus founding fathers were christians now may I point out that it was those christians who were tolerant first now you amamdons are not tolerant of us nor of your countries founding.,nor of your fellow party memebers. You do not have to agree, that is true but respecting the founding of your nation should be the norm. Do not like that then move , and pay France or Germany all your money for all the social programs and laws that infringe on peoples rights. Also the libertarian,progressive and other parties DO NOTHING period for the right to education in Vermont. It is extremely hard to homeschool there and that my ignorant friend is the truth. Sure disagree all you want that is America, or at least for now.

]]> by: Don Grundmann http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-785512 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:46:18 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-785512 " james Says: August 14th, 2008 at 7:10 pm Grundmann, you are a perverse homicidal maniac who condemns Jesus as yo do me." Response : James - I notice you still can't count. What is bigger - 100 or the 5 million that you, as " a perverse homicidal maniac," have endorsed killing? Your denial of the numbers and, especially, your endorsement of the genocide are what make you the rat that you are. " D Kennedy Says: August 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pm Don Grundmann is one sick zealot! I doubt your savior would approve of your personality and comments. You are truly in a tough spot!" Response - My Savior threw the money changers out of the temple. I am sure that He would/will kick your abortion/child mutilation loving butt. ” james Says:

August 14th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Grundmann, you are a perverse homicidal maniac who condemns Jesus as yo do me.”

Response : James – I notice you still can’t count. What is bigger – 100 or the 5 million that you, as ” a perverse homicidal maniac,” have endorsed killing? Your denial of the numbers and, especially, your endorsement of the genocide are what make you the rat that you are.

” D Kennedy Says:

August 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Don Grundmann is one sick zealot! I doubt your savior would approve of your personality and comments. You are truly in a tough spot!”

Response – My Savior threw the money changers out of the temple. I am sure that He would/will kick your abortion/child mutilation loving butt.

]]> by: D Kennedy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-778991 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:45:16 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-778991 Don Grundmann is one sick zealot! I doubt your savior would approve of your personality and comments. You are truly in a tough spot! Don Grundmann is one sick zealot! I doubt your savior would approve of your personality and comments. You are truly in a tough spot!

]]> by: james http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-778731 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:10:51 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-778731 Grundmann, you are a perverse homicidal maniac who condemns Jesus as yo do me. Grundmann, you are a perverse homicidal maniac who condemns Jesus as yo do me.

]]> by: Joey G http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-777955 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:24:31 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-777955 All of that are part of the "Independent Movement" Really need to come together and become one voice. I know here in Minnesota our party has elected a couple of people to office. I have believed for a long time that it is time for a strong Independence Party to come forth and bring reason to our government. Stop this in fighting that goes on in Washington and even in our home states. It is time to stop letting special interests run our government. It is time to bring our taxes back in line and be spent where they are actually needed rather than to a bridge that leads to nowhere. It is time folks to become one voice instead of many voices. As one voice we can and shall be heard. Yes, I believe that we can do this. I don't want any one state or any one group to have a heavy hand of control like the other 2 parties. Each state would have an equal voice. But that is a bit down the line. The time has come, the time is now; Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way! All of that are part of the “Independent Movement” Really need to come together and become one voice. I know here in Minnesota our party has elected a couple of people to office. I have believed for a long time that it is time for a strong Independence Party to come forth and bring reason to our government. Stop this in fighting that goes on in Washington and even in our home states. It is time to stop letting special interests run our government. It is time to bring our taxes back in line and be spent where they are actually needed rather than to a bridge that leads to nowhere. It is time folks to become one voice instead of many voices. As one voice we can and shall be heard. Yes, I believe that we can do this. I don’t want any one state or any one group to have a heavy hand of control like the other 2 parties. Each state would have an equal voice.
But that is a bit down the line.
The time has come, the time is now; Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way!

]]> by: Don Grundmann http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-776909 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:13:19 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/08/12/2-party-system-no-choice-but-evil/#comment-776909 " james Says: August 13th, 2008 at 9:09 am LOL! You got to hand it to these “pro-life” loons who advocate killing and assassinating in order to defend “the sanctity of life”." Response : I should be more tactful but the most appropriate comment is - May God damn James and all other pro-death/abortion lovers for their beyond sick evil. It is those who support abortion who celebrate killing, assassinating, and mutilating children. Take all of the abortionists who have been killed - is the number even 10? I will give the benefit of the doubt to James the Rat and say that it is 10 times that amount or 100 total. Now how many children have been torn to shreds by abortion? 50 million + in just the United States alone. But for the benefit of James the Rat lets reduce that by a factor of 10 to a total of " just " 5 million. So James ( may you deservedly rot in hell ) - which number is bigger? 100 or 5 million? So I say God damn you for your love of and endorsement of evil and genocide. Pro-lifers have always worked to save people and children but you, James ( the God damned pro-death lover ) only advocate and love the mutilation of children. You will richly deserve your damnation. ” james Says:

August 13th, 2008 at 9:09 am
LOL!
You got to hand it to these “pro-life” loons who advocate killing and assassinating in order to defend “the sanctity of life”.”

Response : I should be more tactful but the most appropriate comment is – May God damn James and all other pro-death/abortion lovers for their beyond sick evil. It is those who support abortion who celebrate killing, assassinating, and mutilating children. Take all of the abortionists who have been killed – is the number even 10? I will give the benefit of the doubt to James the Rat and say that it is 10 times that amount or 100 total. Now how many children have been torn to shreds by abortion? 50 million + in just the United States alone. But for the benefit of James the Rat lets reduce that by a factor of 10 to a total of ” just ” 5 million. So James ( may you deservedly rot in hell ) – which number is bigger? 100 or 5 million? So I say God damn you for your love of and endorsement of evil and genocide. Pro-lifers have always worked to save people and children but you, James ( the God damned pro-death lover ) only advocate and love the mutilation of children. You will richly deserve your damnation.

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