Comments on: T. Boone Pickens invigted to join Independent Greens presidential ticket; Bloomberg withdraws http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:20:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: kombayn http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-868869 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:11:04 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-868869 I e-mailed the members of the Independent Greens to nominate Chuck Baldwin/Ron Paul, Ron Paul/Chuck Baldwin or better yet, Ron Paul/Barry Goldwater, Jr. on the ticket. That'd be 3 states Ron Paul had ballot access. I e-mailed the members of the Independent Greens to nominate Chuck Baldwin/Ron Paul, Ron Paul/Chuck Baldwin or better yet, Ron Paul/Barry Goldwater, Jr. on the ticket. That’d be 3 states Ron Paul had ballot access.

]]> by: anonymous http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-864086 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:57:09 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-864086 Probably only depended on them after they were promised the signatures. As far as I've seen the IGs will endorse anyone without a "D" or "R" after their name if it somehow benefits them. Probably only depended on them after they were promised the signatures. As far as I’ve seen the IGs will endorse anyone without a “D” or “R” after their name if it somehow benefits them.

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-863894 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:02:00 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-863894 Why did the CP leadership depend on this party for Virginia ballot access? Why did the CP leadership depend on this party for Virginia ballot access?

]]> by: Joseph O http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-862719 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:48:53 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-862719 Wow, I once had respect for gaines. He has outdone himself as he spews flat out falsehoods. Never would anyone circulate petitions with a name crossed out or changed afterward. Had Mr. Gaines actually ever stepped out from behind the safely of his computer he would know the grueling effort that petitioning presents. Another of his falsehoods that gaines did not even bother to check out was whether Nader's team engaged members of our team for petitioning help. Yes, Nader operated his own ballot access drive, but look at the member of the IG who helped coordinate the Northern Virginia effort... Wow, I once had respect for gaines. He has outdone himself as he spews flat out falsehoods. Never would anyone circulate petitions with a name crossed out or changed afterward. Had Mr. Gaines actually ever stepped out from behind the safely of his computer he would know the grueling effort that petitioning presents.

Another of his falsehoods that gaines did not even bother to check out was whether Nader’s team engaged members of our team for petitioning help. Yes, Nader operated his own ballot access drive, but look at the member of the IG who helped coordinate the Northern Virginia effort…

]]> by: Jones '08 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-862526 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:54:12 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-862526 I wouldn't have a problem were it not for the fact that a) the IGPV already agreed to put Baldwin/Castle on the ballot, and b) Paul and Bloomberg or Pickens have opposite ideologies. I wouldn’t have a problem were it not for the fact that a) the IGPV already agreed to put Baldwin/Castle on the ballot, and b) Paul and Bloomberg or Pickens have opposite ideologies.

]]> by: Ben Miller http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857862 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:33:01 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857862 What is the point of putting some celebrity name on your presidential ticket that will be on one state ballot and have no real effect but maybe sway the vote to one candidate or the other in that state? The Indy Greens should put an actual candidate running for the office on the ballot. What is the point of putting some celebrity name on your presidential ticket that will be on one state ballot and have no real effect but maybe sway the vote to one candidate or the other in that state?

The Indy Greens should put an actual candidate running for the office on the ballot.

]]> by: anonymous http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857277 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:21:08 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857277 Do the right thing and put Chuck Baldwin on! Do the right thing and put Chuck Baldwin on!

]]> by: anonymous http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857273 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:20:42 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857273 Nader did not take signatures from the Indy Greens. Nader and McKinney got on the ballot through hard work for them - not for some substitute with a big name. And, as I understand it, Ron Paul has said he is declining the VP nomination and wants to withdraw. Stop spreading lies. And Nader or Cobb did not get on in 2004 because of competing campaigns. It had nothing to do with Dave Gaines. Nader did not take signatures from the Indy Greens. Nader and McKinney got on the ballot through hard work for them – not for some substitute with a big name.

And, as I understand it, Ron Paul has said he is declining the VP nomination and wants to withdraw.

Stop spreading lies.

And Nader or Cobb did not get on in 2004 because of competing campaigns. It had nothing to do with Dave Gaines.

]]> by: Neeraj Nigam http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857113 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:36:34 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857113 Neeraj Nigam here. I am the Independent Greens of Virginia 10th congressional district chairman, member fo the Independent Greens central committee. I am also on the ballot for U.S. House in the 10th District as an Independent. Nathan Larson is also our endorsed congressional candidate on the ballot in the 1st district. We have a full slate of write in candidates for all the congressional districts. Michael Bloomberg withdrew - in writing to the state board of elections and the Independent Greens State chairman, from the Independent Greens ballot line in Virginia. Otherwise Mr. Bloomberg would absolutely have remained on the ballot....This was what the Independent Greens worked on since 2005. The Independent Greens have been working to support the Pickens Plan since it was lauched, and whether Mr. Pickens accepts the ballot line, or not will continue working with T. Boone Pickens. Ron Paul remains on the Vice Presidential ballot line as of this afternoon. The Independent Greens, as we said all along, will NOT remove Paul from the ballot. Nor would we have removed Mr. Bloomberg, had he not decided to be removed. It was Mr. Bloomberg's decision, just as it is Mr. Paul's. The Independent Green Central Committee, Electors, and state party have already voted on three possible substitutions. T. Boone Pickens is one of them. Others, if necessary, will be on press releases here at Third Party Watch in coming days. ...finally....I would suggest you not believe a word David Gaines writes... a lesson the Libertarian Party learned long ago.. Neeraj Nigam here.

I am the Independent Greens of Virginia 10th congressional district chairman, member fo the Independent Greens central committee.

I am also on the ballot for U.S. House in the 10th District as an Independent.

Nathan Larson is also our endorsed congressional candidate on the ballot in the 1st district.

We have a full slate of write in candidates for all the congressional districts.

Michael Bloomberg withdrew – in writing to the state board of elections and the Independent Greens State chairman, from the Independent Greens ballot line in Virginia. Otherwise Mr. Bloomberg would absolutely have remained on the ballot….This was what the Independent Greens worked on since 2005.

The Independent Greens have been working to support the Pickens Plan since it was lauched, and whether Mr. Pickens accepts the ballot line, or not will continue working with T. Boone Pickens.

Ron Paul remains on the Vice Presidential ballot line as of this afternoon.

The Independent Greens, as we said all along, will NOT remove Paul from the ballot. Nor would we have removed Mr. Bloomberg, had he not decided to be removed. It was Mr. Bloomberg’s decision, just as it is Mr. Paul’s.

The Independent Green Central Committee, Electors, and state party have already voted on three possible substitutions.

T. Boone Pickens is one of them.

Others, if necessary, will be on press releases here at Third Party Watch in coming days.

...finally….I would suggest you not believe a word David Gaines writes… a lesson the Libertarian Party learned long ago..

]]> by: Ernie Plyes http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857080 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:26:16 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-857080 David Gaines.. thrown out of the Libertarian Party...as you were... You're lack of truth telling is nothing new... Indpendent Greens collected 70,000 signatures for their candidates. They also collected about 10,000 for Nader in 2008....ask Ralph...whose 2004 petition drive in Virginia -- as it is widely know was damaged by a fellow named Gaines... Gaines...you should get a life, get a job, or at least manage your congressional candidate's campaign... Or has he thrown you out like the Libertarian Party did? David Gaines..

thrown out of the Libertarian Party…as you were…

You’re lack of truth telling is nothing new…

Indpendent Greens collected 70,000 signatures for their candidates.

They also collected about 10,000 for Nader in 2008….ask Ralph…whose 2004 petition drive in Virginia—as it is widely know was damaged by a fellow named Gaines…

Gaines…you should get a life, get a job, or at least manage your congressional candidate’s campaign…

Or has he thrown you out like the Libertarian Party did?

]]> by: Paul K. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856989 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:07:48 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856989 I think these guys were doing it on speculcation that Bloomberg would run and it would give them the inside track on his ballot access work. When that didn't pay off, they figured to sell them to the highest bidder. But signatures are like concert/race tickets - have a short window of utility after which they are worthless. Anyone know why the deal with the CP didn't go through? I think these guys were doing it on speculcation that Bloomberg would run and it would give them the inside track on his ballot access work. When that didn’t pay off, they figured to sell them to the highest bidder. But signatures are like concert/race tickets – have a short window of utility after which they are worthless.

Anyone know why the deal with the CP didn’t go through?

]]> by: David Gaines http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856984 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:06:51 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856984 These folks are starting to run out of celebrities to glom onto.......I have a suggestion: how about running Lyndon LaRouche? He's a Virginia resident and he's not doing anything. Well, not anything time consuming or important. Plus he loves the spotlight, a characteristic he shares with the IGP. And he's always been a perfect fit in every way with the so-called Indpendent Greens. These folks are starting to run out of celebrities to glom onto…....I have a suggestion: how about running Lyndon LaRouche? He’s a Virginia resident and he’s not doing anything. Well, not anything time consuming or important. Plus he loves the spotlight, a characteristic he shares with the IGP. And he’s always been a perfect fit in every way with the so-called Indpendent Greens.

]]> by: David Gaines http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856889 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:46:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856889 They collected zero signatures for Nader. They went out collecting signatures for Bloomberg, who wasn't even running, starting in January. Then, when he announced he wasn't running and they realized they had a big contribution to the Virginia recycling effort on their hands otherwise, they offered the signatures to Nader (with Bloomberg's name to be crossed out, of course) but his campaign wisely refused them. Then, apparently, they promised the signatures to the Constitution Party, which indicated so on its website, but then at the same time (don't laugh) offered the signatures back to Bloomberg, who wisely took a pass yesterday. Are you following all of this? The Nader campaign got on the Virginia ballot completely on its own. They collected zero signatures for Nader. They went out collecting signatures for Bloomberg, who wasn’t even running, starting in January. Then, when he announced he wasn’t running and they realized they had a big contribution to the Virginia recycling effort on their hands otherwise, they offered the signatures to Nader (with Bloomberg’s name to be crossed out, of course) but his campaign wisely refused them. Then, apparently, they promised the signatures to the Constitution Party, which indicated so on its website, but then at the same time (don’t laugh) offered the signatures back to Bloomberg, who wisely took a pass yesterday.

Are you following all of this?

The Nader campaign got on the Virginia ballot completely on its own.

]]> by: Donna Miller http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856796 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:21:23 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856796 The Virginia State Board of Elections lists the following candidates as Independent Greens: Gail Parker, U.S. Senate Ron Fisher, House of Representatives 8th District Joe Oddo, House of Representatives 11th District As for Nader, how many signatures did the Independent Greens collect for him this year? The Virginia State Board of Elections lists the following candidates as Independent Greens:

Gail Parker, U.S. Senate
Ron Fisher, House of Representatives 8th District
Joe Oddo, House of Representatives 11th District

As for Nader, how many signatures did the Independent Greens collect for him this year?

]]> by: NewFederalist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856689 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:40:01 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/09/05/t-boone-pickens-invigted-to-join-independent-greens-presidential-ticket-bloomberg-withdraws/#comment-856689 I thought they were going to put Baldwin and Castle on the ballot in VA. I know they were flirting with Bloomberg and Paul but this would appear they have decided against putting the CP ticket on their ballot line. Anyone have any definitive news? I thought they were going to put Baldwin and Castle on the ballot in VA. I know they were flirting with Bloomberg and Paul but this would appear they have decided against putting the CP ticket on their ballot line. Anyone have any definitive news?

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