Ventura says he may run in 2012
This from Alexander Nobles at Political Lore:
Jesse Ventura stated at Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty rally in St. Paul, Minnesota, that he would run for president in 2012 if he determined that the grassroots made significant political advances in the interim. It is doubtful he would run for the Libertarian party nod, given that his name alone is bigger than the entire Libertarian party. Ventura could run as an Independent, getting onto all 50 state ballots and possibly winning. This is something that I will be following personally. It looks like the grassroots is already starting to generate momentum for a run in 2012.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Haha I’d like to know which reality this person lives in. Ventura has absolutely no shot at sniffing 2% of the vote if he ran. He is a 9/11 troofer douche who can’t even come up with a clear thought when challenged. He answers every single challenge to his theories with “were you a Navy Seal.”
Bigger than the entire LP? Thats laughable. Please keep this douche away from the LP.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am
I think I smell another book deal…
September 5th, 2008 at 11:50 am
While he served as Governor of MN, didn’t he sell out some of their workers to Communist China? I know he made at least one trip there to pave the way?
September 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Jesse would definitley smash the LP votes if he ran.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Gonzo, did you have a bowl of stupid for breakfast again, or is namecalling just your norm when you have nothing?
Ventura/Rand Paul ‘12 is a ticket I’d vote in a heartbeat, and if they go LP for better ballot access, more power to them. If they go independent, then the LP might as well not run anybody.
(BTW, at 76 and saying he won’t do it again, Dr. Ron Paul would not be on the ticket, but he’d be a helluva senior advisor!)
September 5th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
“He is a 9/11 troofer douche”
Don’t you love truth-hating schmucks like gonzo? Just calls someone names and disregards the 9/11 points made by JV. Even Glenn Beck, who is another “anti-truther” admitted the points made were valid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXR__e3A9Gc&eurl=http://www.dailypaul.com/
Hey gonzo, it’s been seven years, wake up already.
September 5th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Jesse Ventura needs to step away from the 9/11 Truth issue, that’s something that doesn’t need to be the main focus of his campaign. It’ll turn off a lot of voters, he just needs to campaign on the issues like he did in Minnesota. If he gets Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson of New Mexico as his running mate, we could have a real libertarian-minded ticket for the 2012 election. I personally think that Ventura should have ran for Senate, because if he won, he would have 4 years to build up his credentials. Ideally, Ventura would win a Senate seat and Gary Johnson a Congress seat in the House of Representatives.
I know Gary Johnson would easily win his district too. Best case scenario now is that Bob Barr officially gets the 5% needed for the Libertarian Party to get the FEC public funding of $84 million and nominate Jesse Ventura for President of the United States in 2012. At least then he’ll most likely get into the debates and we can finally talk about issues like the War on Drugs. Could you imagine Gary Johnson in the VP debate wiping the floor with the other VP’s on the subject of the War on Drugs? It would not be pretty.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
“Donna
While he served as Governor of MN, didn’t he sell out some of their workers to Communist China?”
je$$e was elected on the Reform Party ballot, which was very anti NAFTA, PNTR China, GATT, etc. Once elected, his views on these trade agreements changed; consequently, he encountered problems with the party and left it before his term ended.
and corporate america rewarded him handsomely with two book deals and a short lived tv show.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
What about a Mary Ruwart/Jesse Ventura ticket for 2012?
September 5th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I just saw some information at Last Free Voice that makes me change my thought above. Somebody named Karl posted that Mary Ruwart had an affair with her campaign manager. I heard that a couple of months ago, but figured that couldn’t be true. She seems so smart and nice. Does anybody know if this is true?
September 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Joell, an elected or appointed official can’t write books or have a TV show?
September 5th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
@Karen Stills – While nobody knows for sure whether that rumor is true or not, Karl has not once provided any evidence. He claims that he is his own source, and that he witnessed it or something.
September 6th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Ventura is pathetic. He is like a big lap dog always wanting to be petted. He’ll say anything to be relevant.
When Pawlenty was being strongly considered he couldn’t help but to find his way in the news. He was on Fox and said something along the lines of, “He should feel lucky and thank me for being Governor of Minn., without me there would be no Pawlenty and certainly no discussion of VP.”
I’ve had enough of this egotist nut. He isn’t even that talented or convincing. He was just an oddity who’s glory has passed him. He is doing everything he can to hold onto a piece of it.
September 6th, 2008 at 1:23 am
“”He is like a big lap dog always wanting to be petted.”
Blame the MSM for having him on if you don’t like him. He’s a fresh voice among establishment hacks. The guy was off the radar screen for years after MSNBC bought out his contract.
September 6th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Dave Tyler
“Joell, an elected or appointed official can’t write books or have a TV show?”
really? maybe you should inform the current speaker of the house! ..........and Joe Biden, Hillary, Newt, etc.
Know Your Power
A Message to America’s Daughters
Written by Nancy Pelosi and Amy Hill Hearth
Category: Self Help – Motivational
Format: Hardcover, 192 pages
On Sale: July 29, 2008
Price: $23.95
ps… many of the corporate america rewards occur after officials leave office, as in tv shows , lobbying $$$, board seats, etc.
September 6th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
You’re equating a book deal and TV show as a “reward.” Perhaps corporate America read a manuscript and thought, “this will make money for us. Let’s publish it.” It’s worth noting he had a very difficult time finding a publisher for his current book.
Yes, it was very short-lived. Then he was cancelled, paid off, and silenced for about 3 years. There’s the real reward.
September 6th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Dave Tyler
‘You’re equating a book deal and TV show as a “reward.” Perhaps corporate America read a manuscript and thought, “this will make money for us.”
do you really believe corporate america would sponsor a tv talk show hosted by someone espousing ron paul/nader like views on economic /foreign policy issues, including criticsm of israel, even if it would make lots of money?
if your answer is yes, then we can agree to disagree and move on.
September 6th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Don’t you love truth-hating schmucks like gonzo? Just calls someone names and disregards the 9/11 points made by JV. Even Glenn Beck, who is another “anti-truther” admitted the points made were valid:
When I see credible evidence for a motive and not some skewed video by a person trying to make a name on YouTube I will believe it.
Until then you just keep hoping Loose Change gives you another excuse as to where Flight 77 went since its been changed at least 7 times now.
Ventura was barely like in Minnesota. Claiming he could win the election is one of the funniest thing I’ve ever read on this site.
September 7th, 2008 at 12:43 am
Joell, I think you misunderstood me earlier. I wrote: “Joell, an elected or appointed official can’t write books or have a TV show?”
It was a question, not a statement. I know they can write books, etc.
You’re painting a picture of Ventura like he was part of the establishment. He wasn’t when he was elected governor, he’s not now. He told Larry King if asked to be McCain’s running mate he’d say no. His show was short-lived, then cancelled, and then he vanished. How does this equate to him being part of the good ol’ boy network? Did you ever watch Jesse’s show or have footage of it?
September 7th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Hey Gonzo, you predictably do what every truth-hating jackass does when confronted w/something they can’t refute, try changing the subject.
Here’s what JV was referring to:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
Here’s what JV said the at rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqEErhR9-M&feature=related
Get a clue!
September 7th, 2008 at 12:53 am
And if you still need credible evidence for a motive you’re dumber than dirt.
September 7th, 2008 at 1:53 am
Dave Tyler
“You’re painting a picture of Ventura like he was part of the establishment.”
he always has been a part of the establishment. just like michael moore, media benjamin, he’s a stealth operative, an illusionary alternative to the status quo.
“He wasn’t when he was elected governor.”
you’re confusing je$$e’s schtick with facts. je$$e the candidate opposed NAFTA, je$$e the governor supported it & Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China; he went to China on behalf of $lick Willie Clinton.
He wrote two books , used state provided security while promoting them & made lots of money…........like “establishment” politicians do
“he’s not now.”
when he’s out of office he reverts back to being the tough guy who will rock the boat.
Once in office, it didn’t take the Reform Party very long to see the real je$$e
September 7th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Joell, please send some links to back up your “stealth operative” stance. Otherwise it’s really just opinion.
Writing books doesn’t make one establishment. Nader and Paul have probably authored or co-authored a dozen books combined, maybe more.
September 7th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Hey Gonzo, you predictably do what every truth-hating jackass does when confronted w/something they can’t refute, try changing the subject.
Keep fighting the good fight there troofer. Loose Change is god and a failed fiction writer knows about engineering.
I’ll tell you what, name another time in history when an airliner full of fuel crashed into steel buildings and I’ll compare the two.
And no, there is no motive for an inside job of 9/11. Bush did not need to pull the towers to go to war with Iraq. The hijackings and crashing into buildings would have been reason enough to go to war with Iraq.
And I’m still waiting on one of you troofers to tell me where Flight 77 disappeared to. Since it didn’t hit the Pentagon did a UFO come and abduct it?
September 8th, 2008 at 12:22 am
No motive? Please say you’re kidding.
1. An invasion of two countries, possibly three
2. Patriot Act
3. MCA
4. DHS
5. TSA
6. HR 5122
You’ve proved you’re a gutless know-nothing. Now:
Here’s what JV was referring to:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
Here’s what JV said the at rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqEErhR9-M&feature=related
September 8th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Jay,
Everything you mentioned could have been accomplished without pulling the towers. Nevermind the logistics make it impossible to do without anyone noticing.
Still waiting on you to tell me where Flight 77 went to.
As usual, logic isn’t a troofers strong suit.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:38 am
No, it couldn’t have been accomplished. Not w/o a genuine reason and the reason for the above (and you can throw in FISA too) is “preventing the next 9/11” and if you haven’t heard that exact phrase you haven’t been paying attention.
Now you attacked JV, still waiting on your reply to the above links. As usual anti-truth people don’t have one. Whether one likes him or not the points JV made are entirely accurate.
I never commented on flight 77. However if you’d like to debate it with this group of people go right ahead:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html
But I know, you’re more knowledgeable than these men and women because of the many hours you’ve spent flying commercial and military aircraft.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:35 am
The hijacking of planes and ramming them into buildings would have been reason enough to pass that legislation. The buildings did not need to be pulled. Again, logic will prevail.
I have listened to Ventura on numerous occasions and his only response to when someone questions him is “were you a Navy SEAL. I do not need to listen to his egotistical rants to know where he stnads.
I’ll even go with the assumption that a plane did not hit the Pentagon. Now you tell me where it disappeared to. I’ll be waiting.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:01 am
We’re not discussing JV on numerous occassions, we’re discussing his comments at the rally. Again you evade his comments and attack him (proving JV right) because you have no reasonable response to the two points he brought up.
You can go with whatever assumption you want about flight 77. After all, you know more than actual pilots.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Again, the troofers bring no reasonable explanation to the table. The only thing they can do is discuss side issues.
I’m waiting for your explanation which you clearly have none. Obviously proof is not needed for the troofers.
September 8th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
The questionable aspects of flt. 77 are covered elsewhere at length and ad nauseum. This post pertains to JV, not flt. 77, as you called JV a troofer douche.
Now about JV’s points…....oh that’s right, you have nothing to back up your “troofer douche” remark as JV is right about the FBI website so you changed the subject.
Wake up and good-bye.
September 8th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
As I said, I don’t listen to anything the troofer douche Ventura says because he cannot engage in an honest debate. When he can stop saying “were you a Navy Seal” i’ll begin to take him seriously.
I’m simply waiting on this so called evidence and facts you claim to have. None of which has been presented.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:02 am
Gonzo, Matthews proved what Ventura said at the rally was factual and your responses indicate you can’t handle that.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Well at least it took 48 seconds before Ventura mentioned he was a Navy Seal in that video.
The fact that they didn’t charge bin Laden really proves nothing. Bin Laden’s own words were used to say he did it. What good is charging him going to do anyways.
Let me see if I understand the argument. On one hand you guys claim this is the dumbest administration, but they are able to pull off the most elaborate inside job in history?
The “let it happen” crowd has far more credibility and evidence than the people who believe the administration was behind it.
Common sense will often reveal the true answer.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Take Ventura’s remarks in their totality and don’t cherry-pick. Although cherry-picking doesn’t make his remarks any less correct.
“The fact that they didn’t charge bin Laden really proves nothing. Bin Laden’s own words were used to say he did it. What good is charging him going to do anyways.”
Umm, because indictments are a standard part of the legal process. It means you have evidence linking an individual to a crime. And if you go to the FBI link there is ZERO reference to 9/11 for OBL. Like him or not, Ventura is being factual. Was the above a serious comment? How old are you?