As a person who grew up in Phoenix, yea… the old man was great!

...but have a good day!..

....(it appears these brainwashed republicrat herd animals have some strange fucking ooga booga priorities!)

..but have a good day!..

...actually dumbass, generally, ‘the con. party’ supports HUGE ‘government’ in comparison to ‘the LP!’..and please do take root, barr, jonathong, and the rest of the republicant posers and numb fucks galore!..

...btw, i know some of you ‘Libertarian free-marketeer$’ (and other republicrat dopes who work their holes as to illion$ absent an honest inkling as to the origin, nature, etc. of even one!) probably won’t like this…but here is what the world’s foremost monetary historian/thinker has to say about the recent ‘bailout’...(btw, if you know of a better monetary historian/thinker please merely name the name or spare me the open hole noise!)..i will just about GUARANTEE THAT NONE OF YOU HERE WANT TO HONESTLY DEBATE THIS GUY AS TO “MONEY”...THE LONGER THE DEBATE THE MORE THOROUGH YOUR TROUNCING!..

http://www.monetary.org/700billionscam.html

“Monetary Reform of the Federal Reserve System.

At the heart of the problem is that our money system has been privatized. Naturally it’s being run for the benefit of the “privates” in control, with minimal concern for the public interest..

First all the elements of the Monetary Transparency Act should be a stipulated part of the rescue in a section calling for greater transparency. A section can be added for an arm to investigate monetary crimes…

Second, rather than borrowing the $700 billion being demanded, and ending up paying back about 3 times that amount after interest charges, The US Government could issue the money the same way the banks do, instead of borrowing it from them. But while the banks issue credit that substitutes for money, the U.S. would issue actual money. Our Government has the power to create the money, in an account, or by simply printing it as “greenbacks.”

There would not be inflationary effects, because it was already believed that those moneys existed in the form of the real estate values and loans. In effect this would stop a deflation which would follow from writing down those assets and loans to their present market values. Some conditions would be needed to assure that the banking system did not use those greenback dollars for further credit creation, as that would be inflationary. In essence the greenbacks would not be “re-discountable” by the banking system to create more loans, but would be legal tender for all debts public and private…

Legislation called The American Monetary Act has been in preparation for years. It’s based on well known monetary principles and actual experience from our own, and other countries monetary history.

The Act incorporates the Federal Reserve System into the U.S. Treasury. It removes the banking systems privilege to create money, placing that firmly within government, and it establishes areas for governmentally created money to be introduced into the economy for infrastructure…

The monetary system will shift away from credit and debt, to real money. One difference between money and credit is that during uncertain times, credit evaporates, but money does not go out of existence, it is much more stable.

The AMI has been ready and working on these provisions for years, while realizing that it unfortunately might require a crisis to bring real attention to it. We have the crisis. Let’s make this happen. Let’s get real reform that helps bring humanity forward, out of the ignorance and poverty and warfare, and darkness; and into the light.

What the administrations proposal is doing is almost identical to what Keynes did during the Great Depression. He insisted that the bailout be in terms of government going into more debt to the banking system, whereas the Chicago Plan by the greatest economists in the nation at that time, was promoting the government to create money (Greenback equivalants) instead of debt.
(See http://www.monetary.org/chicagoplan.html describing Chicago Plan and Keynes)
Whats that line about repeating actions and expecting a different result?

Keynes won the argument but his program did not work and it was only WW2 and the wartime employment, creating tanks to be blown up, airplanes to be shot out of the sky, and ships to be sunk, that Americans went back to work and we worked our way out of the depression, and into more debt. Thats where this proposal leads. Keynes answer was that “in the long run we are all dead,” but not our posterity. Based on what happened following his program before, our descendants, and society that survives become enslaved. (Bob Poteat is presenting a talk on Keynes and Militarism at our conference.)

Serfdom will result, unless we begin putting a stop to the monetary enslavement now.

From a previous post some years back on an IMF Bailout:
“The corporate attempt to be bailed out of their errors, in the same year that they have agitated to cut welfare benefits to the truly needy, is despicable. Their attempt to have the same American workers they are attacking, bail out their corporate greed and stupidity shows the complete bankruptcy of their philosophy, as well as their management methods, and the depravity of their soul-less existence. Lobbying furtively for assistance from the government they continually denigrate as impotent, attests to the unfathomable depth of their hypocrisy…’

...he still mentions republican fuck-heads like goldwater (a murderous vietnam war supporter) and stinking ronald reagan (an ignorant big government shill and phony) with fondness..

...i wish all you phony republican ‘Libertarians’ would PLEASE go back home to your stinking fucking republican party and stop besmirching honest libertarianism!..

...but have a good day!..

And, yes, Palin positions herself as an “anti-politician.” However, she’s NOT an anti-politician. She’s governor of the largest state in the Union.

My take is that Ls need to learn from this. Rather than being anti-politicians, we need to evolve toward being anti-politics politicians. If we actually want to have influence, we must get into the actual arena, even if our intent is to undo the arena!

Otherwise, we will continue to be pure theorists of no consequence. Barr/Root is a step in that direction. We do need to develop a lot of bench strength.

Liberty is too important to just let the Rs and Ds keep taking it away from us.

I stopped reading it. But… doesn’t matter, I’m glad that Root is on the ticket and kudos to Barr and Root for going out there everyday and trying to get the word out.