Last updated on July 13, 2024
Addendum: We are advised that Mark Rutherford is on vacation with his family so he was not at this meeting.
Meeting will largely be in Executive Session.
The proposal is to create a joint fundraising account with Kennedy. He is not a candidate of another party. His donation limit is $3300. Ours is $43,000. We form this object and his donors can use our donation limit. We would keep 10% of the money.
Harlos: This should go to the full LNC, not the ExComm. Poor Mr Kennedy can’t raise more money, so we will raise money for him. This violates our statement principles and our bylaws, and I will take the matter to the Judicial Committee. This is raising money for an opposing candidate. 10% cut for us is absolutely shocking.
Ford: How will we advertise this? Chair says we will have control over the advertising.
Malagon: We can keep our principle and be politically savvy.
Watkins: This is the Kennedy campaign helping us. (Chair had estimated that we would be getting $100,000 a month out of this.) Nekhaila confirmed.
Harlos: We are giving Kennedy a benefit. Is the price of our soul $100,000 a month? We are throwing our own candidate under the bus. This motion is against the very DNA of the party. Reminds ExComm that discussion must stay only on allowed topics for executive session.
Weir asks about data sharing. Chair says that is for executive session.
Chair moves to go to executive session on creating a joint fundraising committee. Secretary says she will not join the session so that she has no access to confidential information. They went into Executive Session.
Move to authorize LNC to enter a joint fundraising agreement with the Kennedy campaign. The vote:
Ford Yes
Redpath Pass
Secretary Pass
Watkins Yes
Yeniscavith Yes
Secretary No
Redpath Abstain
Chair Yes
Passes 4-1-1.
Robert F. Kenndy also got the nomination of the Reform Party in Florida, which I know is FEC recognized. He also got the nomination of the Natural Law Party in Michigan which I know is also FEC recognized. He also got the nominations of the American Independent Party in California, the Alliance Party in Sputh Carolina and some party whose name escapes me at the momenf in Delaware.
I already listed all those in an earlier comment. Scroll down.
The reform party is $12 million in debt and barred by the FEC from operating as a political party until they pay off that debt.
Is that the Florida Reform Party, or the National Reform Party? What are they specifically barred from doing?
In 2000 the national Reform Party was given $2.5 million from the FEC for their convention. The FEC later determined that $333,000 was spent on things that did not qualify. The national Reform Party was barred from spending any money, other than spending necessary to raise funds, until that $333,000 was repaid with interest. As of 2008 it had not been repaid and I don’t feel like tracking that down to see if it is still outstanding.
I have no idea about any other debt or FEC prohibitions on operations to which Fishman might be referring.
Nothing involving Reform Party has had that kind of money since 2008, or for several years before that. I’m not clear on whether the current supposed national reform party has anything to do with the Florida reform party, which I think is the only one that still has a ballot line. There was one in Mississippi recently, but they must have lapsed, if I’m remembering what I read even more recently correctly.
There was also a NY Reform Party recently. I believe they also lost their ballot line, and additionally never had anything to do with the national Reform Party to begin with.
While there are (iirc) alleged reform party chapters in additional states, I’m fairly sure none of them have ballot lines.
The reform party died in a faction fight coming out of 2000. The dwindling number of ballot lines have been used to cross endorse other party or independent presidential candidates and to run a miniscule handful of candidates scattered between election cycles and states. Various attempts to revive the national party were stillborn.
Where was the Vice Chair (again) & why wouldn’t Redpath give a hard NO on this as Treasurer?
This is what I mean when I say the entire LNC is complaisant.
Those who still think there’s some “hope” should share with the rest of us whatever you’re smoking – then join any appeal to the JC & start a recall effort of all officers.
Those that finally see the light – & after all the crap in the last week not sure how you can still hold out any hope when even the VC & Treasurer won’t put up a fight – then please join me here: liberalpartyusa.org
The fundraiser is based on a lie. Kennedy has a political party that could file with FEC and have the same fundraising capabilities as any other political party
What benefit does Kenedy get from a joint fund raiser? None other then the LNC takes 10% of what he can raise. How is that a benafit to Kennedy?
Based on what’s in the article, the benefit to Kennedy is that there is a much, much higher limit on donations that far exceeds the LP’s cut. It will likely not bring in the kind of money they’re talking about, though,
That’s only based on the libertarians being a political party . His we the people party has the same limits as libertarians.
Have they run enough candidates to qualify?
Addendum: Caryn Ann Harlos indicated that she will be filing one or more Judicial Committee appeals over the matter.
Kennedy is the candidate of the We the People Party that he established.
https://www.kennedy24.com/ballot_access_about_we_the_people_party
So the sellout is total. What a farce. The only hope in this is Chase Oliver informing the LNC he will not participate in this or take any of the money.
The motion doesn’t include the party’s actual presidential candidate.
Additional party nominations:
We the People Party (HI, IA, MS, NC)
Natural Law Party (MI)
American Independent Party (CA)
Independent Party of Delaware (DE)
Alliance Party (SC)
Reform Party (FL)